Can I negotiate my mortgage if on fixed rate?

Discussion in 'Loans & Mortgage Brokers' started by Justin_mo, 18th Jun, 2019.

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  1. Justin_mo

    Justin_mo Well-Known Member

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    Hi All,

    I am current part way through a 2 year fixed interest (3.83%) rate with ME Bank. They have lowered their rates now to 3.58%. I am wondering if and how I can negotiate on my mortgage to try and get the rate of 3.58%. Perhaps since I am on a fixed rate I may not be able to?
     
  2. Lindsay_W

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    It's worth a phone call, generally though most lenders won't change your fixed rate once you're in it but the only way to know for sure is to give them a call and ask.
    Pretty sure the 3.58% is for their 3 year fixed rate product, not the two so doubt you'll get them to match it.
     
  3. Terry_w

    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

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    Anything can be negotiated
     
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    Rolf Latham Inciteful (sic) Staff Member Business Plus Member

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    You could to look at a fixed rate break cost and see if it works to move to another lender and then use that as a tool - maybe.

    The issue is this, its called a fixed rate because its fixed......... not up or down, and the lenders margin is already locked in, because they have bought the money from someone else

    If the lender raised the rate on your fixed loan there would be hell to pay im sure

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  5. Peter_Tersteeg

    Peter_Tersteeg Mortgage Broker Business Member

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    You can break the fixed rate contract. Most likely they'll charge an exit fee.

    Try to keep it in context. You're talking about a 0.3% difference. That's $300 per year for every $100,000 you've borrowed. You've got one year left on the fixed rate.
     
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    Maybe im not enough of a big fish, or suck at negotiating but I've had no luck with getting better rates than the advertised ones.

    Even getting any fees hasnt happened either
     
  8. Terry_w

    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

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    I didn't say it would be easy!

    The bigger your loan is the more pull you have generally.
     
  9. TMNT

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    Even the bank rep who I asked to do the advertised rate was almost met by rolled eyes!

    Surely I'm not that ugly
     
  10. Rolf Latham

    Rolf Latham Inciteful (sic) Staff Member Business Plus Member

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    Who be the lender and amounts

    Ta

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  11. TMNT

    TMNT Well-Known Member

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    so far ive tried

    anz $100kx3
    NAB $150x3
    Macquarie: $100k x 5
    Westpac $100k x2
    (figures are approximate)

    anz waived the $300 odd transfer fee, because they lost my application 4 times in 6 weeks
     
  12. Terry_w

    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

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    You should be offering them more money!
     
  13. Rolf Latham

    Rolf Latham Inciteful (sic) Staff Member Business Plus Member

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    id agree with TW, the volume spread isnt something they would be falling over,......... but a mortgage discharge landing in the right place may still work

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    thanls for feedback, I didnt think id be a big enough fish
    part of dealing with being a slumlord
     
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    How would you feel if your bank wants to negotiate the rate on your fixed rate loan up when rates go up?
     
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    Billion dollar corporation vs a single person..

    They'll make the negotiated rate up somewhere else...
     
  17. Zoolander

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    Even if you’re partway into a fixed loan? Curious to know if any of your clients have had luck adjusting down a fixed rate without breaking out of the fixed period
     
  18. Terry_w

    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

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    many years ago I had a client who negotiated a reduced break cost.
     
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    I have a loan that was 90% LMI and is fixed for about 12-13 more months. It's on 4.77% due to the LMI but I was thinking to draw equity and split from my PPOR to bring it down to 80% and negotiate loans (either with existing lender or elsewhere).
    I asked for the break costs to be calculated and what the indicative variable rate would be should I come off the fixed rate.
    The CS rep said that they can only provide me with the variable rate once I proceed with the break cost. Is this normal? Considering I can't make an informed decision whether to break or not, only to find out that the variable rate could be worse or negligible only after the fact...
     
  20. Rolf Latham

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    Its not normal, but typically the persons doing the fixed rate break quote, are in a different area than those that do pricing

    ta

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