World Indices Roundup 2020

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  1. willair

    willair Well-Known Member Premium Member

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    Looks like it's going to be a good day and unlike the GFC pattern the caronavirus is very different ..We may even see a mini put the seatbelt on rather then The handbrake bull run.imho.
     
  2. Silverson

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    How deep could we expect to see the leg down if 3272 is not broken?
     
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  3. kitdoctor

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    The minor push in XJO has eventuated. My chart pattern of XJO strongly suggests the top of this rally for XJO is now in (early). Wave (v) nicely pushed through my governing channel but couldn't push beyond the upper boundary of the second channel and then price action reversed sharply. Here we go!

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  4. Pier1

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    Hope everyone playing the game are making some nickles.
    6200 was more of a gentle air kiss than a tag......
     
  5. willair

    willair Well-Known Member Premium Member

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    The first question some will be asking early today once the markets open is ''what is the maximum loss one is prepared to sustain..
     
  6. marty998

    marty998 Well-Known Member

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    Smart **** :p

    Wall St 7% down... here we go again.
     
  7. skater

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    I'm not going to pretend that I understand those charts, but in layman's terms, you are saying you expect a drop in prices?
     
  8. Islay

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    Yes, starting yesterday. Today will drop after almost 7% drop on Wall St last night.
     
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    skater Well-Known Member

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    Thankyou
     
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    He is saying he gets prices of a select group of companies through complex calculations gets an average at different points in time draws lines on maps to constantly predict that what goes up doesnt go on the same trajectory for infinity. He can then figure out that when prices get out of alignment with earning potential and the market indicates it he then is able to predict the average price of those selected companies will fall too. He is able to predict negative sentiments will cause a price drop.
     
  11. Simon Hampel

    Simon Hampel Founder Staff Member

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    I note the sarcasm - but for the benefit of others, that's not actually what @kitdoctor is doing at all. He's not really looking at earning potential, just patterns in the market.

    There are a set of patterns that the market has been consistently observed to follow in many (but not all) situations.

    If you learn the rules and how to identify the patterns, then you can increase the probability of identifying the next likely move in price.

    It is not a guarantee - it's an increase in probability.

    The risks are still there and you still need to apply normal risk management techniques - but this strategy aims to reduce the risks somewhat.
     
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    Big drop!

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  13. kitdoctor

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    Said with luv. Thank you.
     
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  14. kitdoctor

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    When looking at the two charts I have projected the upper boundary of one channel off the end of wave ((i)) and the upper boundary of the second channel off the end of wave ((iii)). The lower boundary of both channels passes through the end of waves ((ii)) and ((iv)). These channels frequently will identify the end of wave ((v)).
     
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  15. kitdoctor

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    55 = Fibonacci number. The rally from the low lasted 53 trading days. Coincidence? I'll let you be the judge.

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  16. VanillaSlice

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    Is there a fibonacci number for the next/current leg down and subsequent wave up as well Kitdoctor ?

     
  17. kitdoctor

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    There are many ways to identify potential time (date) targets e.g. Fibonacci numbers, Fibonacci time extensions, Lucas numbers, Gann Square of Nine, etc. What one usually does is apply a number of these techniques and identify dates that cluster together, while at the same time assessing where the wave count is at to identify when the completion of the structure is lining up with the identified dates. Now that the next important move appears to be underway I can do this work, time permitting.
     
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    Subjective no? I’ve seen it mentioned that the patterns are only ever confirmed retrospectively
     
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    In addition to the indexes, it is useful to watch the leading stocks of a rally. They provide vital clues on where the market could go. For the US markets, AMZN and NLFX are the liquid leaders that moved first in this up move. Other leaders include ZM, DOCU, DXCM, LVGO and VEEV. If stocks like these breakdown, even when the market is heading higher or going sideways, that's a strong clue. If they hold up well during a correction, or a day like yesterday, that's another clue.
     
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  20. Simon Hampel

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    Sure - you use the techniques to predict the likely moves in the market and then based on the probabilities, you make investment decisions based on that.

    When you have confirmation that your predictions were wrong, you take action to correct the mistake.

    There are no guarantees - and this is just one of a number of tools that you would use to try and increase the probability that you are right - you wouldn't use one tool or indicator in isolation.
     
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