Will you download the Covid19 Location App?

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Will you download and use the Covit19 Location App?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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    44.7%
  1. kierank

    kierank Well-Known Member

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    I am going to inject my phone with disinfectant every night, just to make sure I didn’t contract any government viruses during the day :D.
     
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  2. Terry_w

    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

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    Pretty good for a few hours tho
     
  3. Scott No Mates

    Scott No Mates Well-Known Member

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    It's not the Mygov server, so there's no reason that it'd crash or deny service.
     
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    I am unsure where I suggested I am worried to get a swab?
    But I did live elsewhere where state ruled, that's all.
    After all do we still live in a free world and have choice?
     
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    Morrison said if 40% of the population downloaded the app ...we can start opening up the country lol. Nice communist demand.

    I might download the app when they make an app for other infectious diseases.
     
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    Oh speede
     
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  8. Scott No Mates

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    My post is to highlight how something as 'innocuous' as your smartwatch has also the capabilities to betray your location, movements, activities and who else that participated.

    Not when the govt can tell your beautician or pub or restaurant that they must close, you can't go on with life as if Covid doesn't exist and simply hang out with crowds.
     
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    I've downloaded as well. No point to have liberty if there are no humans left.
     
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  10. Propertunity

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    ScoMo said he might make installation "mandatory" and then retreated from that position.
    Ministers like Greg Hunt put a human face on government activities, but people behind the scenes with their own agendas blatantly lie to ministers. If you think that data will not contain location information and that all collected data will be "blown away" post COVID-19, then I have a small island off the coast, previously known as Van Diemen's Land, that I could sell to you cheap. If you don't want a whole island, what about a Harbour Bridge?
    History, for those who are older, tells a different story, to the current scenario being discussed.
    In the 1970's sperm donors, donated on the understanding that any children they 'fathered' would not have access to their biological father's details (no, I am not talking from personal experience), but that has proved to be a lie.
    Many ministers of the day, as they are today, are lawyers by trade with reasonably smart minds (smarter than the average population) who were convinced that the Marbo native title legislation they helped write and voted for would "not affect people's backyards", but it has done exactly that in some cases. I could go on. I understand why Barnaby does not want to be tracked....ahem. I agree that we are being tracked anyway and I personally don't care. I'm boring too - I go to work, I come home, I go on holidays, I do some shopping....yawn.
    But on a matter of principle - it's a "no" from me.
     
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  11. Peter_Tersteeg

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    There's two things about this app that concern me.

    1. Everything I've read indicates that it doesn't track your location, it tracks contacts. I've also read the technical spec that tend to support this statement. However the app does ask for access to your location on installation. It also hasn't been peer reviewed and this would be a very simple feature to add.

    2. Whilst I might trust the government to do the right thing with the data, it broadcasts an unsecure Bluetooth identifier. Bluetooth is secure once a connection is established, but the initial handshake is not secure at all. There's any number of ways that this might be exploited.

    I've already said this. I'm not really afraid of the government's use of this app, it's the way other's could exploit it that worry me.
     
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  12. wylie

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    Doesn't dropping your phone into the sink solve any issues that may arise though? No phone = no app if things ramp up and our freedoms are in question?
     
  13. Propertunity

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    According to Apple's technical specifications, the iPhone 11, iPhone 11 Pro, and iPhone 11 Pro Max all have a water resistance rating of IP68. ... An "8" water resistance rating means that your phone can be underwater (at a depth of at least one meter or around 3.3 feet) for up to 30 minutes without being damaged. :p:p
     
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    Nothing a sledgehammer won't fix... o_O
     
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    Save effort and money. Don't recharge your phone credit.
     
  16. TMNT

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    downloaded and installed just now!

    I aint intending to commit a terrorist attack and if they can see which supermarket I go to, I dont care

    if it helps corona, then its good enough for me
     
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    It probably relies on the cooperation of all carriers in the same way that 000 works regardless of the network or your current balance.
     
  18. Simon Hampel

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    I've installed the app - nothing I have read about how the app functions is unreasonable in my opinion.

    Interesting Twitter thread about it here - Matthew Robbins on Twitter ... someone decompiled the app and was able to extract the source code and look closely at how it works. Their conclusion: it does exactly what it says on the tin.
     
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  19. Peter_Tersteeg

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    It doesn't need your phone to be active to work, just the Bluetooth connection.
     
  20. DaveM

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    I for one welcome our new vital signs tracking overlords
     
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