Who's responsible for this mess?

Discussion in 'Property Market Economics' started by standtall, 29th Mar, 2019.

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Who is responsible for the current real estate crisis?

Poll closed 26th Apr, 2019.
  1. Royal Commission

    14 vote(s)
    13.7%
  2. Banking Industry (lending practices)

    43 vote(s)
    42.2%
  3. Regulators (RBA/APRA/Govt. Policies)

    62 vote(s)
    60.8%
  4. Mortgage Brokers

    5 vote(s)
    4.9%
  5. Global Factors

    8 vote(s)
    7.8%
  6. Migrants

    9 vote(s)
    8.8%
  7. Property Investors

    24 vote(s)
    23.5%
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  1. standtall

    standtall Well-Known Member

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    Probably the worst real estate decline in memory but who's responsible for putting us there? What do we think?
     
  2. hammer

    hammer Well-Known Member

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    Does it matter at the end of the day?
     
  3. standtall

    standtall Well-Known Member

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    Learning opportunity!
     
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    marmot Well-Known Member

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    Its the price you pay when government sits on its backside and does nothing .
     
  5. kierank

    kierank Well-Known Member

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    You are missing one option:- FRCPs
     
  6. mues

    mues Well-Known Member

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    We are responsible. Bubbles are human nature.

    We did it to ourselves
     
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  7. Peter_Tersteeg

    Peter_Tersteeg Mortgage Broker Business Member

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    How about, "None of the above?"

    In fact I'm not entirely sure what crisis you're referring to? What's happening right now is a normal part of the market cycle.
     
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  8. standtall

    standtall Well-Known Member

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    It's NOT part a normal market cycle, a normal market cycle runs on the forces of demand/supply and doesn't need intervention from regulators.

    A normal market cycle would have triggered caution in lending as a result of some problem like arrears or defaults.
     
  9. muller23

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    you missing interest rates there
     
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    Idiotic banking policy of banks, only willing to lend to addresses with a post code that is overpriced and negative cashflow, while refusing to lend for properties that make lots of money. WTF did they expect to happen.
     
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  12. TheSackedWiggle

    TheSackedWiggle Well-Known Member

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    Why is it a mess?
    what goes up comes down,
    Do you really expect ever increasing credit will keep popping up prices without income backing it up?
     
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    TheSackedWiggle Well-Known Member

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    aha...the selective free market cycle argument when it suits,
    is NG not an intervention?
     
  14. Peter_Tersteeg

    Peter_Tersteeg Mortgage Broker Business Member

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    I'm still not sure what crisis you're referring to?

    Do you mean the 'affordability crisis'? I'd say that was caused by a range of certain government policies along with a lack of other needed government management over the course of almost 3 decades. The solution to this will also be decades in the making, not the simplistic ideas that are being thrown about.

    Or perhaps it's the 'lending crisis'? That was triggered by regulators and then followed by lenders reacting too conservatively. There's a good argument for and against the necessity of this, so I don't think I'd call it a crisis. More like a re-normalisation of the standards.

    The crisis of house prices dropping in Melbourne & Sydney? A normal and quite predictable part of the market cycle. It might have been triggered by the previous two categories, but that is a trigger. We've had booms and busts before as a result of government policy. The current correction was always going to happen sooner or later.
     
  15. qak

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    Pretty much.
    How about "Greed" as an option?
     
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  16. Sackie

    Sackie Well-Known Member

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    One person's 'crisis' is another person's opportunity of the year .
     
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  17. Jess Peletier

    Jess Peletier Mortgage Broker & Finance Strategy, Aus Wide! Business Member

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    I'd go a step further and say 'The Media'.

    The fact you're using language like 'crisis' is case in point.
     
  18. Scott No Mates

    Scott No Mates Well-Known Member

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    It's a conspiracy between the One Nation Party and the NRA.
     
  19. TSK

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    Howard when he made changes to capital gain tax.
     
  20. berten

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    Hey @standtall

    Legitimate question, I thought you were bullish on property, even recently predicting a return to peak in Syd by August? Maybe I have you confused with someone else, or did your outlook shift?

    Cheers