Who responsible for removing palm leaves?

There are a couple palm trees in my IP. When the palm leaves dropped, tenants just collected them and put them in a corner. After a year, now the palm leaves become a big pile. Tenants refuse to remove them. Just wonder who will be responsible for removing these leaves.

Thanks

 

Hi Wylie

Thanks for your reply.

I am interstate. If have to hire someone to remove the leaves and it will cost me. Tenants refuse removing them because this will cost tenants.

Anyway, the rent will finish in Jan 2018.

 

I had a neighbour drop palm fronds making a huge pile in a tenanted Property of mine. The tenant had been dropping them back over the fence but the neighbour was more persistent about it. I had the agent send them a letter telling them to stop or they would pay for removal. They told the agent that the fronds must have been from my trees - I had no trees! PM told them that, and that someone would be going out to remove them at their cost. The fronds vanished pretty quickly. They still do the same thing though every time I get a new tenant in the property.

Seriously though, the tenant should be maintaining the yard. Advise that someone will be coming out to remove the fronds at their expense...

 

Palms!!! I've got a jungle of them in the back yard.

The easiest, simplest solution to all this is to call up a garden waste bag company and include it in the rent.

Tenants just Chuck the fronds into the bad and the bag gets emptied once a month like magic.

Only costs $20 a month.

 

Part of renting a place includes them MAINTAINING the property inside and out.
(Well at least that's what I would have expected).

How is your example any different to not mowing a lawn?
Grass grows, tenant walks past. A year later it looks like a jungle. Tenant refuses to cut it.

 

So you not have a council green waste service/bin that you pay for?

 

Some palm fronds are huge, hard to cut or bend and fit in a wheelie bin.
Check with your PM. It may be your responsibility.
Marg

 

I would find some kind of solution. These tenants do sound hard working and conscientious. I think it's worth keeping them if that's the biggest problem with them.

 

1) get a tree lopper to come in and chop down all the palm trees.
2) If you still want trees, plant out the yard with dwarf fruit trees.(some year round fruiting lemons/avocado/macadamias)
3) Use the mulch from the palm trees to mulch around the fruit trees.

There you have a low maintaineance harvestable permaculture orchard on you property. Lawns and palm trees are so PASSE...

 

When push comes to shove, tenants aren't actually responsible for removing palm fronds. Quite ridiculously, it's considered 'specialist gardening- similar to any sort of hedging and pruning. Fortunately, it's very unlikely your tenants are going to know that, plus it's not written legislation- it's one of those unwritten precedents.

If any of my tenants ever tried to tell me they wont remove palm fronds because it's not their responsibility, I'd be very cranky with them. Sometimes logic needs to overrule ridiculous decisions.

 

Why would it cost the tenants? Isn’t there a green bin?

 

because palm branches are too big.

 

My old neighbour got 4 big palm trees and there was no ways they can fit all the fronds into a bin. So through out the year, we see the palm fronds removed once the owner trying to get tennant (King now), and slowly piled up until they left as the owner refused to pay to keep their previous King but Servant now.

So it is all coming back to market, if it is a tennant market, luck on them, otherwise, it is yours. Bear the cost to remove all palm trees or bear the cost to find a new tennants, choices are yours. My choice is to cut all the palm tree after settlements

 

Honestly I think the tenants not removing the fronds is a bit ridiculous. Clearly they chose to rent a property with big palms, and basic maintenance of the garden is part of being a considerate tenant. To me that seems like renting a property with a lawn then refusing to mow it.

The real problem, though, is they've waited an entire year to deal with them. Piling them in the corner and then announcing the problem now, after so long, I mean come on. If the fronds were a problem and they didn't think it was their job to deal with them, couldn't they bring this up months ago?

 

It costs me $120 to hire someone to remove the fronds anyway. Just do it rather than an argument with tenants and more headache. I will have a new tenant anyyway.

 

We do this with our golden cane palm fronds or cut them up easily, but the palm trees next door are a different variety and have huge fronds over 3m long and 20cm to 30cm thick at the base. Impossible to fold and extremely difficult to cut into lengths to fit Into wheelie bin. One frond cut into 3-4 pieces fills the bin.

If I had palms like that I would get rid of them.
Marg

 

A lot of palm fronds fall over to our side from neighbours plants. dont think its deliberate but just that they are at the fence... fronds are pretty big and we regularly get a maintenance guy to to get rid of those... maybe we should engage with our neighbours...