Education & Work Whats your average sickies per year?

then if they arebt up to standards required they should buck up, be given opportunities to improve and if they still dont get thrown out and realise they threw their super in the bin. this isnt a charity being run here and a position like a teacher is such an important one in society

 

People wonder why the workforce is becoming increasingly casualised, but it's people taking advantage of their entitlements. The irony is you can't get rid of old teachers, but most new teachers are either underemployed or working on temporary contracts.

In the last business I worked for the boss refused to hire anyone permanently so we were all casuals- he even had employees that had been there for 20 years working as casuals. I actually didn't mind it because we were all full-time casuals so even though we were casuals we knew that we were pretty much full time permanents anyway in terms of hours and stability. Instead of getting sick leave or annual leave we'd just get paid 25% higher and also more super as a result. The only drawback was not getting paid on public holidays but in that workplace there was barely any sickies because if you don't work you don't get paid.

Edit- Even in the Government (well the SA Government at least) most positions these days are all temporary contracts ranging from 6 months to 3 years.

 

None in the last 12 months. Probably 3-4 over last 5 years.

Previous place of employment we would start to highlight anyone who had more than 5 in the year, and move to performance manage anyone that had exceeded their yearly allowance.

Had one person fake a Drs Certificate once and they were moved on.

 

All the people bragging about taking no sick leave make me sick... as in, they come into work and spread their illnesses around and give them to others. We had a typhoid Mary in our team who came in with some dreadful illness and passed in on to every other person in the team. Taking no sick leave is not something to be proud of, unless you don't get sick. I don't know anyone who doesn't catch a cold every now and then.

For me, I take as little sick leave as I can. But if I do get sick, mostly from collegues, I don't go to work and spread it around.

 

Totally agree. Gastro alone takes 5 days to clear and not be contagious to anyone else. I reckon I'd be less than 3 days a year if contagious people just stayed home. Not only are sick people unproductive, the cost the company more, by contaminating everyone else.

 

If you don't include public holidays and mandatory shut down periods over Xmas, I took my first official day off in 8 years this January.

And no sick days in the last 8 years, even though I have been sick many times. When I have work to do nothing stops me.

 

Nor do I. I would much rather go to the shopping centre/cinema/concert/rave and infect a whole heap of people who I don't know.

 

Gees, your keen. If I am so sick I can't go to work, I don't leave the house.

 

I don't believe i should be entitled. I believe that whislt it would have no effect on the number of sickies i take as i don't take them it would be cheaper for employers. As an indirect employer (anyone who owns their own business or works in private enterprise and pays taxes is) of many million public servants, nurses etc I think that this would cost us all shitloads less as many (not all) of these indirect employees abuse the system. Sadly I am sure that the Government which we indirectly employ would find more ways to waste this money.

When the employee calls in sick in industries like healthcare, the employer gets a temp to fill the spot at a greater cost than the original employee. If we could encourage the employee not to take sick leave like it is an entitlement, then this would be a more efficient system. I cannot see this socialist society agreeing to a reduction in wages when taking sick leave.

Its semantics, but one has the spin of punishing the employee when they could be genuinely ill, the other has the spin of rewarding the employee for looking after their health and not taking sickies when not sick.

If you couldn't tell from my original post in this thread I am not someone that supports taking sick leave as something your entitled to when not sick.

 

My employer, who relies on oil royalties, was stressed about loss revenue when oil prices collapsed last year. By San Antonio standards, I am paid well. She cut back my hours....which of course didn't last long because the work didn't go away.

I offered to forgo paid sick leave. I'd rather have a job than sick leave. I knew she could sack me and find someone cheaper.

Taking a cut in benefits made her happy, and I'm still employed.

I spent a week in hospital recently on unpaid leave. And since returning to work, I have been working extra hours to catch up.....and paid for all hours worked. I lost nothing......and have a happy employer who values me.

Since starting last August, I received a 20% pay increase, a bonus on my birthday and another at Christmas.

I live and work by the rule that whatever you give or don't give, you will receive in kind.

 

1 maybe per year.. only when genuinely sick (not very often at all)

 

This is the sensible approach.

 

When I was a first year apprentice there was a bug that went around that cause pretty much all apprentices (12 of them) to have a day off over the space of 2-3 weeks. Mr, bossman wasn't happy about that and called all apprentices in for a meeting.

This is where he told everyone "Sick days arent for when you are sick, sick days are for when you are dieing"

 

Good to see so many people get sucked in by this one.

 

Bran, do you think it's reasonable that an ordinary person would consider 65 days off sick in a given year should investigate palliative care as opposed to some Sudafed and a few glasses of Galway Pipe?

Cos, it doesn't sound that good...

 

i work with a lady (long time public servant with plenty of sick leave) who has terminal cancer. She has taken very few days off during her treatment over the last few years. Some days she went for treatment and came back to work the same day. She was in hospital for a week earlier this year and took her laptop so she could keep up to date.

She says it keeps her mind off it by keeping her busy and living a normal life. I know id be using my sick leave.

 

One of my (very successful) best friends decided not to let her kids stay home unless dieing and found that they didn't get sick. She leads by example. My Mum was pretty much the same - I had the works as a kid though: measels, chicken pox, several strands of glandular fever, etc. Used to be normal for kids. Now I have trouble asking for a day off. Honestly don't know how some get away with it.

 

Im guessing youre joking or just trolling. No one could be so out of touch to think 65 sick days is acceptable.

 

Most people I know who take sick leave are sick - either cold or hangover. Am generally healthy even when everyone in the office is terribly sick sometimes I'm jealous

The last 3 sick leave in 5 years, I took it for mental health day, moving house (back pain) or interview. I do think people should take one if they're not mentally up for up work - not only sick on bed.