What are effects on switching to P&I for serviceability?

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  1. Laurence

    Laurence New Member

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    Hi all,

    I've got an offer from two of my banks to switch to P&I on my investment loans. The discount between what I'll be paying on IO vis P&I is roughly a 0.7% discount - which is pretty good.

    Apart from the obvious effects on my raw cashflow - I'm also weighing up the effect this would have on my ability to get more loans in the near future. I've got some equity to unlock - but servicing under the new rules has been tight.

    My simple understanding is that most banks are using a P&I repayment at 7.5% when calculating servicing? So my thinking is switching my loans to P&I would actually have no impact on my servicing?

    Or is it not as simple as that?
     
  2. Shahin_Afarin

    Shahin_Afarin Residential and Commercial Broker Business Member

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    Im a big fan of P&I in today's environment however by going to P&I you are going to severely hurt your servicing with the limit lenders that do actual repayments (such as Liberty) or actual payments plus loading/buffer (Qudos and Pepper).

    So you need to consider whether or not you are using these lenders in your portfolio in the short term.
     
  3. euro73

    euro73 Well-Known Member Business Member

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    The biggest consideration is the remaining term of the loan.

    Those with 10 year I/O terms are now seeing the remaining 20 years assessed at a banks sensitised assessment rate ( say 7.25% ) but over 20 years rather than 30 years

    Those with 5 year I/O terms- as above but 25 years.

    So switching to P&I after say, 2 years of I/O improves capacity more than switching after 5 years or 10 year I/O terms because it allows the lender calculator to assess your debt over a 28 year remaing term rather than 20 or 25 year remaining terms, which is what happens for 5 or 10 year I/O terms.

    But a simple P&I switch isnt going to improve your capacity significantly on a "per loan" basis. If you had 5,6,7 loans you moved to P&I , maybe...... but 1 loan.... modest impact. The real value of switching even 1 loan to P&I comes from paying down debt while retaining the rental income. Thats what will reap the bigger rewards down the track.
     
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  4. Rolf Latham

    Rolf Latham Inciteful (sic) Staff Member Business Plus Member

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    If you are relying on lower IO repayments to make servicing work with the few lenders that still play in that game, then you need to work though the actual numbers

    Right now, for many IO fixed may be marginally better for servicing with those magic lenders still, on some if the special fixed rates, the actual repayment is similar to the IO variable repaymet

    If

    1. variable IO IP rates contnue to increase in spread to PI (likely) then fixing PI now may better
    2. If the special Non banks get hobbled by "apra" or some other powerful force, them pretty much PI ixed at yesterdays 4 % rate will be good .

    One must consider the other issues in this regard thoughtof ixed rate issus generally - subs/ports/sales/offsets/extra pays etc

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