Wanneroo rezoning gazetted.

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  1. DoubleD

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    If anybody can get 3 on 692m2 @Westminster can :D
     
  2. Aconis

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    Keep us all informed on this. I for one would be interested to see how it works out.
     
  3. Scaphella

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    Hi all,

    I have a flat 730m2 in Marangaroo which has been rezoned R40. What exactly are the set back rules? I can't find the info on the city of Wanneroo website...not sure what to do with the place at this stage. I called Profesioanls in Balajura as they seem to be the area experts, they said an increase of values won't be like flicking on a switch it will be a gradual effect but who knows in this crappy market. Looking at Craigie which got rezoned a few months prior it doesn't appear to have done much at all yet.
     
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    Read the r codes on dept of planning website. I think an average setback of 4m from memory
     
  5. Westminster

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    P58 of the Residential Design Codes of WA is your best friend. The answer is 4m but it is more for garages - the 4m is just for the dwelling

    Residential design codes
     
  6. Scaphella

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    Great, so does this mean you can hypothetically gain a potential extra 150m2 of land ?? Clearly I have a lot more reading to do...
     
  7. Westminster

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    Huh? You've lost me.
    You have 730sqm and assuming you may have an 18m frontage that means you 'lose' 4 x 18 = 72sqm you can't build on but you can fence it to create a front courtyard.
     
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    I had it in my head that block size was calculated from the letter box back. So if I had 730m2 I would now get to claim from 4m from the street to the back of the block instead of the letterbox ...I'm sure I make no sense right now. I ordered the book 'Australian residential property development for investors' to educate myself but clearly by the other posts it's doesn't seem feasible to do much at all! :/
     
  9. Westminster

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    @Scaphella
    Ah no it doesn't work like that but I understand why you think that. Street setback is not from the street - I know it's silly isn't it!?! Street setback is from the property boundary/letter box spot. So dwelling walls need to be 4m behind that.
    You have a good sized block though at 730sqm - bigger than many of the 692sqm blocks in Girrawheen/Koondoola. At 730sqm you can build three single storey 3 x 2 with double garages if it's feasible.
     
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  10. Aaron Sice

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    Also an average of 4m, not just 4m; so if you have a 2m setback in a section, you have to compensate by providing the same area at 6m setback.

    Unless you're proposing apartment style development (which is allowed at this zoning), then there's no provision for averaging - so just 4m minimum.
     
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    Do you think a potential developer would be more interested if he/she could snap up two blocks next to each other instead of just the one?
     
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    Depends on if 2 blocks means 7 villas vs 3 villas on each

    Also, the higher purchase price can sometimes mwan less competition from firsr time developers who are more likely to pay over the odds.

    Certainly if combining the 2 blocks means an extra site there would be very good chsnce for greater selling price for the seller than 2 individual sites
     
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    I would do cartwheels if that went for over $500k, and would most likely cash out of my place up the road.

    Realistically I would be surprised if it goes for more than $470-$480k.
     
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    Long time lurker, first time poster. I've got a property in girrawheen rezoned to r60 at 688sqm and was thinking of developing it. Have actually received a few flyers in the mail regarding developing it but was wondering if anyone might have any contacts to talk to? I trust the gurus on propertychat more than some random person on a flyer ;) I'm thinking of demolishing the current property and building 3 3x2 villas to hold long term and rent out, would appreciate any suggestions or comments.
     
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    3 villas in 688sqm would produce tiny villas.

    Just because the zoning allows for subdivision, the numbers and returns may not stack up for the area.
     
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    Could do one of them 2 storey eg the front one if it has a view which leaves more land for 2 more decent size single storey. I'm not sure apartments will stack up here
     
  19. Aaron Sice

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    Lot sizes are the same though.

    R60 is an average of 150 sqm, min 120sqm. So it's likely four smaller 3x2 two storey homes.

    But I don't know if that product is tested yet. I'd be very happy to do up a quick yield feasibility for you. Can also put you in touch with a very competitive unit builder.

    Can also do three lots between 180-200sqm each if you like. Might be tight 3x2 single storeys but is possible.

    Will PM you for the address if you want to.
     
  20. Spugnardi

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    That would be great, thanks! I know most developers would be looking at a minimum of 20% ROE but since I'm looking at holding long term, I figured it might be feasible if the final rental yield is decent. Will PM you with address.