Unit trust - redemption & issue of new units

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  1. thesuperman

    thesuperman Well-Known Member

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    How does it exactly work with a redemption & issue of new units in a unit trust & what are the tax implications/consequences? Say a property is held in a unit trust, purchased a few years ago at $500k, value is now $1mil.
     
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    Paul@PAS Tax, Accounting + SMSF + All things Property Tax Business Plus Member

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    Depends on state law. CGT issues are governed by tax law.
    All part of advice regarding use of a trust. One of the reasons why a unit trust NOT own two properties too
    Legal advice may be aessential issue too. Issue units to the wrong unitholder and the trust may end
     
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    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

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    Why not just transfer the units?
     
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    Paul@PAS Tax, Accounting + SMSF + All things Property Tax Business Plus Member

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    Transfer of units is a CGT event and also potentially dutiable if the state taxes a indirect transfer OR land rich provisions operate. Redemption will be a CGT issue. The key factor is usually duty. Also timing can influence when the CGT event is measured since a contract sale (Event A1) doesnt occur.

    Generally redemption and reissue is used to avoid a"transfer" which attracts duty. QLDhas a indirect duty rule which would fail. It is also a strategy where a SMSF may be involved to avoid s66 SISA.

    The valuation of units can be messed up and care must be taken to avoid a tax mistake.
     
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    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

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    No duty in NSW unless Landrich
     
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    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

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    And I would have thought redemption would be a cgt event as changes beneficial ownership
     
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    So in NSW it doesn't make any difference if you just transfer the units or redeem and reissue the units (execpt as a SMSF strategy) as either way the same CGT amount is liable and duty won't apply (not Landrich).
     
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    There are differences but not with stamp duty because there would be none on either.