Turning PPOR with no mortgage into an IP.

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  1. Joanie03

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    Hi, I know there are a few threads which may be helpful but I am wondering about turning a PPOR into an investment property. In this scenario House 1 has no mortgage. Spouse A and Spouse B want to upgrade to a new house, House 2, and want to turn House 1 into an investment property. House 1 is 100% owned by Spouse A ( was purchased before marriage). Are the following 2 options possible, or the best financial options?

    Option 1: Spouse A sells 50% of House 1 to Spouse B at market rates (approximately $850 000 for 50%). As this is in NSW there is no stamp duty attached. Spouse B takes out a loan for the full 50% ($850 000). The house is now equally owned by Spouse A and Spouse B. This is then valued and turned into an investment property - can the interest against the $850 000 loan can be deducted?. Can the $850 000 can go towards House 2 or other things?

    Option 2: Spouse A sells 50% of House 1 to Spouse B at market rates (approximately $850 000 for 50%). As this is in NSW there is no stamp duty attached. Spouse B takes out a loan for the full 50% ($850 000). The house is now equally owned by Spouse A and Spouse B. After a short time Spouse A sells the last 50% to Spouse B (this will cost approx $31 000 in stamp duty). Spouse B then refinances to increase his loan to a full 80% of the property, approx $1.28million). This house is then turned into an investment property and they buy House 2. The $1.28 mil is used to buy the new house. Is this legal? Can interest again be deducted against the $1.28mil loan on house 1 (which is now an investment property).

    Should House 2 be bought in the sole name of Spouse A in case this strategy needs to be repeated in the future?

    Are there any better options?

    Thanks for your help/ideas.
     
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    Get an offset for the loan on house b to avoid this issue altogether.
     
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    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

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    Thanks! So it looks like we could do strategy 4. Selling 50% now to Spouse B and then the last 50% to Spouse B shortly after. Am just wondering how that meets the ‘purpose’ test in order to deduct interest on the IP (that used to be PPOR).
     
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    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

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    Deductibility is dependant on the use to which borrowed funds are put - not the purpose
     
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    Thanks, but am not sure what you mean there. Are you able to explain further?
     
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    So if the use is a new house (House 2 as a PPOR) does that work?
    Or does it need to be a new investment property or shares or something?
     
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    Option 1
    That has a catch. The transfer must occur while it is the principal place of residence of both A + B. It should be contracted at market value and the main residence exemption MIGHT apply. Get personal tax advice as there could be a catch and the whole issues of property ownership should be considered. The spouse can use the proceeds borrowed by A to buy the new house and it could be a debt recycling exercise.

    Option 2
    Also possible. The CGT issues needs review and the assumption that the property is exempt as a main residence underlines both options.

    Debt servicing and other issues should also be explored by a broker. Note that they might not be encouraged to act for option 1 only since option 2 would clawback any fees they earn. Whether option 1 and 2 can be done together is doubtful. OSR NSW could even apply a avoidance rule if they saw both transfers. Worth checking that legal issue first.

    I have worked on a few of these deals with Terry and as a broker and tax adviser and soliictor he knows the issues well. I would want it well managed.
     
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    I though you were talking about your spouse borrowing to buy the existing house off you?

    Best to get some tax advice
     
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    The purpose is to buy a share of property. If that property is now geared and then rented I see no concern.
     
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    Thanks so much. I will discuss with Spouse B and look at further tax/ legal advice.