Timber Veneer doors paint or replace ?

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  1. PatsyStone

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    I think keep the rise too. It hides many sins .
     
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    Nothing wrong with scones!
    ...hate to tell you but (most) blokes don't know the difference between bone china or bone Mexican tea sets!
     
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    Hi Patsy darling, I am confused, since when did you learn about kitchens ??? I thought you lived at Ed's lol

    I think a top and splashback would do maybe put some rugs to break up the timber floor....
     
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    If you want a beachy white hamptons look then these doors are very popular to achieve the look on a budget

    SÄVEDAL Door - 60x80 cm - IKEA

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    This is an ikea kitchen with similar colours for your mosaics

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    I am not sure the Ikea doors will fit your kitchen to do a direct swap over (unless Ikea will make custom size doors and drawers?).
    If you are in a high value area and already looking to change facings and put on a stone bench top I would just replace the whole kitchen - opportunity to put in pot drawers, new hardware etc.
     
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    I thought she was looking to sell therefore trying to keep any improvements low cost? Pot drawers are great but if she is moving out, I think there's no need for her to go to that expense.
     
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    What makes you think her kitchen is custom?
    The sizes of standard kitchen and bathroom cabinets have been uniform for a very long time now. I'm confident she will measure the existing cabinets for size prior to spending a grand on the doors.

    Unless the carcasses are badly water damaged I don't see how replacing them will add any value, it will just add labour and material costs that could go into a higher quality bench top.
     
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    As a prospective buyer I would immediately be concerned that over time the rug holding water has started to rot the timber floors.

    The style of doors is dated, changing the splashback and bench tops won't make the kitchen look newer without also changing the doors. The existing splash back Patsy has is also quite popular in new kitchens at the moment so there isn't much benefit in ripping it out.
     
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    They soon learn
     
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    Actually that's what I assumed but wasn't sure . My kitchen was custom made . I don't think there were many Modular kitchens 15 yrs ago. House is not in the high value category. More in the middle. Naturally most buyers love a high end kitchen . My sad budget does not allow.
     
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    Already have pots drawers . Was ahead of my time .
     

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    Custom as in you had non-standard cupboard sizes made? If it was simply from a kitchen company and you selected the cupboards/layout you wanted they should be standard sizes.
     
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    Must be different in NSW then - door sizes change in WA depending on length of benchtops - our kitchen for instance the doors are 10mm narrower on Island bench than on the wall benches to suit length without using filler pieces. In the hundreds of houses I have supervised I have very rarely seen a "standard" size door.
     
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    I designed with an architect and a cabinet maker made them. Don't think all doors and drawers are standard .
     
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    I just measured most doors and drawers . Don't know what exactly is considered standard sizes but mine are varying throughout the kitchen. Have many sizes in this kitchen.
     
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    Standard height, width and depth of kitchen cupboards

    Sizes and dimensions are generally standard in Australia, however you can customise your kitchen to suit your tastes or requirements.
     
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    The Ikea website gives you the dimensions of their cabinets and doors, see if they marry up to yours.

    This website gives the standard sizes for Australian Kitchens:
    Standard Dimensions For Australian Kitchens | RENOMART

    Standard dimensions for stock / DIY floor cabinets
    • 300mm wide x 720mm high x 560mm deep (1 door)
    • 450mm wide x 720mm high x 560mm deep (1 door)
    • 600mm wide x 720mm high x 560mm deep (1 door or 2 doors)
    • 750mm wide x 720mm high x 560mm deep (2 doors)
    • 900mm wide x 720mm high x 560mm deep (2 doors)
    • 1050mm wide x 720mm high x 560mm deep (2 doors)
    • 1200mm wide x 720mm high x 560mm deep (2 doors)
    Standard dimensions for stock / DIY wall cabinets
    • 300mm wide x 720mm high x 300mm deep (1 door)
    • 450mm wide x 720mm high x 300mm deep (1 door)
    • 600mm wide x 720mm high x 300mm deep (1 door or 2 doors)
    • 750mm wide x 720mm high x 300mm deep (2 doors)
    • 900mm wide x 720mm high x 300mm deep (2 doors)
    • 1050mm wide x 720mm high x 300mm deep (2 doors)
    • 1200mm wide x 720mm high x 300mm deep (2 doors)

    Standard Door Sizes

    It is easy to work out the correct standard door width and height for any (frameless) kitchen cabinet. Simply subtract 3mm from the cabinet height and 3mm from the cabinet width. For pair doors subtract 6mm from the cabinet width.

    For example:

    If a floor cabinet was 720mm high x 450mm wide (1 door) the correct door size would be 717mm high x 447mm wide.

    If a wall cabinet was 600mm high by 1000mm wide (2 doors) the correct door size would be 597mm high x 497mm wide.
     
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    Thanks for this. Looks like my kitchen is not all standard sizes .
     
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    Maybe go back to the idea of painting the doors, could be worth investing in a recommended professional painter. Here's a reno I did where I didn't have the budget for a kitchen and sprayed the doors (they were pine however so we were able to sand, your doors would need to be treated with ESP or a similar bonding agent first).

    I covered the bench tops in Merbau from Bunnings which cost me $100 a length (may have been 1.8m or 2.4m long) and lacquered them. Doors were painted with in high gloss.

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    Gee they came up well. Look good.
    I had a painter look at my kitchen he wasn't confident that he could paint it but he really didn't need the work. Same as most painters around here at present.
    I have the same veneer in bathroom vanities.
    Doing bathroom Reno starting next week.
    Vanities are going so a paint trial is possible .
     
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