The race is on....Federal Election 2019

I couldn't hear any backing track.

 

I think you are right Lizzie,they would have know about the US cash for guns for a while and the power to multiply and when to bring it out into the mainstream media..
I just wonder when the real dirt will start to flow over the next month as the Labor unions past ,and the peacocks tail style signalling of future superiority hits the wall..

 

She's claiming both - probably with different parts of the report as (with most of her statements) it's not clear what is which.

My comment still stands ... if you don't say it, they can't record it ... something reality show contestants really need to learn too

 

Or entertainers dancing on the table?

 

My thinking is the only way scomo will win , is if everyone thinks Labor will win ( which most people seem to think ) and decided to vote for liberal so Shorten doesn't get too cocky by wining by a land slide .

I don't like either .

I think both the last liberal and labor governments have been pathetic and in a sense liberals need to be kicked out , re group in opposition before they can become effective .

Tempted to vote Labor locally ( doesn't matter as I'm in about the safest liberal seat around ) and write " this one's for Julie " in the Margin . Paul Fletcher , our local member was in the group that undermined Julie Bishop ...

I'd also be tempted to put , " Vote 1 - Jacida Arden "

Can we join NZ as the third island ? Seems about the only way we could get a decent Vote .

Her speech in Christchurch today , was one of the best political speeches I've ever heard out side Churchill and Kennedy ...

Cliff

 

I would settle for ALP win (although prefer LNP to win) but a hostile senate where ALP can be virtually guaranteed none of their high taxing changes every pass or are completely watered down if they ever pass.

Cheers,
Oracle.

 

Is there even an alternative party close enough to win besides those 2?

Cheers.

 

327 independents?

 

But can they form gov? What's the likelihood of that?

 

About just as likely that they could all agree on a restaurant to go to lunch.

 

Listening to an interesting discussion on ABC Sydney this arvo - from a couple of Asian/Europeans who were born in Australia humorously talking about their experiences growing up in a predominantly white culture - and there was a phone in from a Lebanese/Palestinian Australian who made the observation that the "hate" directed towards those Middle East/Muslim descent today by Pauline et al is exactly the same as she observed (growing up) directed towards the Asians in the 1980's by Pauline et al.

That the Middle Easterns weren't the target of prejudicial hate speech in the 1980's but the Asian's were ... now the places have swapped.

Makes on realise that Pauline's hate is not about any particular culture or religion - it's simply hate of non-whites

 

Xenophobic does not mean the irrational fear of Nick Xenophon.

Please explain.

 

I'm booking my flight

 

I suspect we're in for a rough ride over the next few decades.

The "Business as usual" Liberal for a few years, Labor for a few years thing is coming apart which is sad cause if you look at history, the continual centre-left vs centre-right battle has really worked well for us. We've got a solid economy, great working conditions, free hospitals etc... It's not perfect but its overall pretty darn good.

What's replacing all of that is a thinning out of the middle and more people gravitating towards the far left and right. The rise of the greens in inner-city electorates on the far left and the rise of Pauline on the right highlight this.

It really scares the $^#& outta me, cause you don't have to look far back in history to see what extremes on either side of the political fence end up doing.....

 

Much of the problems comes back to distribution of wealth.
You go back to the first half of the 20th century and there was small groups of very wealthy people and very large groups of very poor people that had very few rights and were generally exploited by the ruling class.
They were easily led astray by fringe groups, communism, nationalists etc.

 

Maybe....I tend to think it comes back to us all living in our own echo chambers with social media. It nudges us towards more extreme views.

 

Its been happening for years ,long before social media.
One nation started in the late 90s
It gets worse over time if left unchecked. especially in politics when we all get to vote
But it comes back to distribution of wealth and some people feeling that they are missing out.
Some of it is also generational , where certain age groups horde most of the wealth.
That's been happening in Australia for a long time.
I bought my first house as a single and paid it off in 10 years, I barely earned the median wage when I took out the mortgage, although my pay dramatically improved after the 7th year of the loan
By todays prices the banks would not even allow me to get a mortgage unless I had a partner.