The death of society as we know it

What’s with the click bait title? Didn’t know this was a trash mag site.

The problem is that there are so many people that want things for nothing. Everyone looks at the big end of town as the monsters, but there are so many people that sit on their ass and do nothing.

We could afford so much, but instead we spend an absolute disgusting amount on welfare.

I’m not talking about the pensioners, the war vets, the disabled - those are the people that we should be helping.

I’m talking about the unemployed with 5 kids, the middle class who have become so used to handouts.

And now the problem is, the middle class would never elect someone who wants to remove them. You can’t blame the politicians, they wouldn’t get in if they tried to adjust it.

The world is selfish, but none more so than those that are too lazy to have a crack

 

Hence my signature.

 

Not a similar a story - since it’s not about someone in their fifties or older!

 

See previous post #18.

Your post is the perfect example of what Lizzie has identified...

 

Try sharing your link with these people and see what reaction you get:

Do Medical Bills Really Bankrupt America's Families?

An astounding number of bankruptcies are being driven by student loan debt

About 13M U.S. Workers Have More Than One Job

Income and Poverty in the United States: 2018

Granted - the situation in the UK is better due to the lingering social security coverage for medical, education but is eroding due to the opinions of those like some on this forum about "social" security being evil and somehow communist.

If you look at the logic in the original article - and do yourself some further self-educating - you will see that the current path of selfishness, money-grabbing and self-protection is what led to communism in many countries in the first place

 

The Australian community who live like the 1970s never ended
Maybe they were right back in the late 1970's..

 

I'd like to think we can find middle ground - somewhere between the community living and self expression/autonomy

 

This is not aimed at you just my general comment to that sentiment.

I consider myself a hardcore capitalist and most folks who know me in real life would not say I'm uncaring at all. Either would all the charities I happily donate to.

The whole narrative of uncaring capitalists etc is the poisonous agenda of many on the left to demonize many decent folks and perpetuate this rift between the have and have nots.

 

Then why do you constantly demonise the decent folk who are doing it tough in society and, along with others on this forum, demean the caring left as socialist communism? ie, your first post in this thread.

A significant portion of society do not have the ability (through education, ethnicity, outside factors such as conflict, age, upbringing and/or physical/mental ability) to be a ruthless capitalist like yourself - so why consider those to be lesser people? And hence less deserving of healthcare, education and opportunity?

I am sure the charities are grateful

 

Ruthless capitalist? Geez. Ok we'll just have to agree to disagree on all this.

 

I'm sorry if that's offensive. It is the impression you give, given your ongoing comments over many threads, that appears uncaring if there is a dollar cost.

Care to comment on that perception as per the rest of my post?

 

I'm not offended at all, if that's the impression you get from my posts then fair enough. But it's easy to jump to conclusions.

 

Not sure Lizzie. Sackie has a mountain of respect for me, and I am one of those middle class welfare recipients who spent 25 years bludging off the govt purse trying to raise my useless unemployable kids.

 

Then please reply to the rest of the questions so i can be educated in why that perception might be incorrect

 

Tbh not really. It's kinda a waste of time. But very quickly I absolutely believe in a safety net for low income earners doing it tough, folks with mental disabilities should absolutely be looked after, as well as the elderly. Folks from disadvantaged areas should have greater access and opportunities . I'm all for that. I'm all for immigration for refugees. I'm for a greater effort on climate change too.

Anyway it's all good.

 

All good then .. so why support an ideology and politicians that are trying to destroy such?

 

Because for the most part, I don't believe that to be the case.

 

Well done, a comment that contributes nothing...

If you had a good read of my post, you would have been able to see that, I am supportive of helping those that are in genuine need. However, I am definitely against welfare handouts for people that are simply lazy.

I will further cement my point that if we did away with the lazy people, we would have more welfare, more of a safety net available for those that genuinely deserve it.

 

Society seems to be improving

World Vision

Global poverty: Facts, FAQs, and how to help

The world is making huge strides in overcoming global poverty. Since 1990, a quarter of the world has risen out of extreme poverty. Now, less than 10 percent of the world lives in extreme poverty, surviving on $1.90 a day or less.


When families move out of poverty, children’s health and well-being improve. Since 1990, the number of children dying — mostly from preventable causes such as poverty, hunger, and disease — is less than half of what it was, dropping from more than 35,000 a day to under 15,000.



Global poverty: Facts, FAQs, and how to help | World Vision

 

Now i am confused. The current government's of Australia, the US and the UK are those that are supporting minimal tax paying by the wealthiest, at the expense of those at the bottom of the ladder ... Newstart hasn't increased in 20 years, Scomo hs just announced legislation changes to reduce access to the aged pension based on ethnicity, the US reduced the tax payable on earnings over $10mil but the minimum wage hasn't increased in decades ... and what about all those now kicked off healthcare and dying due to such? ... the UK is heading down the same path with many being denied disability funding despite being obviously disabled, ie, missing limbs