Tenants taking photos of Owner

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  1. Joynz

    Joynz Well-Known Member

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    The 'kid' is an adult according to the OP.

    I wonder if he is on the lease?
     
  2. Sharky

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    Hey all, we have provided all necessary prior,
    Notification via the agent to the tenant, via post and phone calls giving all relevant time frames before entering the property.

    Tenants' child, is an adult who has recently graduated from uni in March.

    Tenant is aware of the construction of the GF, we notified them pretty much when I purchased the IP. They were happy as long as they weren't being vacated.

    We have done everything by the letter, and consulted our agent before access to the property, ourselves and builders, surveyors etc.

    My assumption is that they're are just those type of overly padantic persons.

    Just noticed the other day they sealed up the water tap on the outside of the building, so we are unable to use it, over the top I say.
     
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    Maybe they are worried you won't compensate them for the water usage?
     
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    Oh I understand why they did it, it's just the approach was somewhat over the top. I have no intention or need to use the resource that they would pay for. Don't want to give them anything else to pick at. Not worth the hassle.
     
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    But have you included all details on the lease the tenant signed? They are entitled to "quiet enjoyment" of the property. You can't simply issue notices that you are going to enter the property for building work.

    Why should they pay for YOUR water usage? I would lock off any external electrical outlets as well.

    I agree it sounds like they are collecting evidence for the tribunal.....
    Marg
     
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    Well we do have their consent to enter the premises when we ask, just when we do go, they start making excuses that we should leave or come back later, it hasn't happened to often, but it was troublesome when some contractors came and were yelled at.

    But thanks for the heads up, I'll speak to the agent to see if that may be a scenario that could occur in the future.

    The good thing, the agent/pm does all the paper and liaising with the tenant. We only go once he comes back with an Ok.
     
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    I would look at stopping all work on the GF until their lease expires and give them notice you need the house empty.
     
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    Oh the lease has already expired, they are currently on a month to month basis as of the end of last month actually.

    I really need to get more organized. Argh. This is all still so new.
     
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    I wonder if the workmen were creating a lot of noise, or starting earlier than they should?

    Have you reduced the rent to compensate for the inconvenience to the tenants?
     
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    Will they get to use the Granny Flat when it's completed, without increase in rent?
    Anyway, I will be quite happy for them to take pictures of the entire construction, but not of my or anybody's photos.
    Howabout take a photo of the person(s) taking the photos? :D
     
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    Current rent is about $30-40 pw below market, according to the agent, and from what i learnt about from speaking to the tenants a few doors down.

    And like Pumpkin, I'm fine with as many photos as they want. Just not of persons.
     
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    Frankly, if a person I did not know was in my yard I would be taking pictures too. How does your tenant know that the person is actually entitled to be there?
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    You need their consent, in writing, on the lease document, clearly setting out exactly what part of the property will be affected. Preferably fenced off, with own utility connections.

    Otherwise they are completely within their rights to deny access if the time is not suitable to them.

    And a $30-$40 a week below market rent is not exactly adequate compensation for the fact that you are undertaking building work close to their residence.

    I agree you would be better to give correct notice for the tenants to leave, and do the bulk of the noisy building work before re-renting. At least the new tenants will know exactly what the situation is.
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    Was their consent given verbally or in writing? Sounds like they might be collecting evidence or at least carefully monitoring who enters the yard.
    As others have indicated I'm not sure maintaining the rent slightly below market is adequate compensation for no 'quiet enjoyment of the property'.
    If I was the tenant I would be watching contractor movement closely as well to ensure nothing was damaged etc.
     
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    That isn't the case in this instance. Tenant is aware of whoever needs to be there, and do not approach to verify if they should be there or not.

    They just take photos without a word. And previously when I approached them; they just walk back into the house and close the door.

    If they had any concerns they have yet to notify anyone.

    So I'm confused =\
     
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    They don't do it all the time, just on occassion, hence why I didn't think much of it. Only bothered me as it made my father uncomfortable, hence why I decided to bring it up with PC just to gauge what may be happening.

    But I'll raise the concerns brought by PC with my agent and see from there

    Edit: Thank you all
     
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    It might be nothing to be concerned about but at the very least they aren't happy.
     
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    So , they are ' blocking off the water tap.'
    Did they ask permission from you to do this?
    In writing?
    Sharky,
    please Read your lease!
     
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    Sounds as if they have simply attached a locking top to prevent water theft. No permission needed, it does not affect the tap at all, simply sits over the tap handle so it can't be turned.

    We had to do this when neighbours were accessing the garden tap my mums unoccupied house - mum in nursing home. At least we figured this was happening when water usage increased when house vacant. Locking caps on both exterior taps resulted in close to nil water usage! When house sold we removed the caps.
    Marg
     
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    'Sounds as if they have simply attached a locking top to prevent water theft. No permission needed, it does not affect the tap at all, simply sits over the tap handle so it can't be turned. '
    Sounds like a good thing!
    I thought they took the tap off...