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Tenants offering to install fireplace

Discussion in 'Property Management' started by ExcuseMyFrench, 28th May, 2016.

  1. ExcuseMyFrench

    ExcuseMyFrench Active Member

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    We are currently renting a house through friends. It used to be their PPOR but they built their dream house and convert old PPOR into IP.

    We love the house, great suburb, etc. we are due for a rent increase and it might be a deal breaker for us financially.

    So I'm trying to think outside the box. We have access to beautiful designer fireplaces and could offer to install one in the house as a way of a rent increase...

    If you are a landlord, is it something that could interest you?
    Would a design fireplace add value to an IP? (If that matters retail price is ~$5k + installation costs)

    I know for a fact they love the design of the product but does it matter for an IP?

    At the end of the day I just need to talk to our friends but thought I'd check the idea here first as I wouldn't want to come across with a silly deal.
     
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    Scott No Mates Well-Known Member

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    • Does it suit the house?
    • Hmmm, fires in houses? Who's responsibility is it to keep the flue clean?
     
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  3. DaveM

    DaveM Adelaide Buyers Agent & KFC Strategist Business Member

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    Most landlords exclude fireplaces from the tenancy due to the need to know what you are doing lest there be a firey end to the tenancy.
     
  4. ExcuseMyFrench

    ExcuseMyFrench Active Member

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    It does suit the house.
    Good point about the flue. While we are the tenants that wouldn't be an issue but could be with other tenants.
     
  5. Ouga

    Ouga Well-Known Member

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    That is an interesting topic: how are gas fireplaces handled typically for an IP? Are they simply disabled prior to tenants moving in? Or is there some kind of regular maintenance/check conducted by the fireplace company to ensure compliance?

    Would be keen to hear from some of the PMs on the forum about this, perhaps @D.T. or @Xenia could shed some light?
     
  6. DaveM

    DaveM Adelaide Buyers Agent & KFC Strategist Business Member

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    Gas is fine in my mind, wood burners are the issue.
     
  7. Xenia

    Xenia Adelaide Property Manager Business Member

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    We have rentals with combustion heaters, like anything they can become a problem if misused.

    Landlords responsibility for upkeep and maintenance.

    Whether you should install or not, as long as it's professionally done - it's up to the landlord to accept or not. There are no rules here.
     
  8. D.T.

    D.T. Adelaide Property Manager Business Member

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    Would lean towards gas rather than wood as is safer and cleaner.
     
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    bob shovel Well-Known Member

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    I'd prefer gas.
    But are fire places common for the area? Eg does everyone in town get excited they get to fire up the chain saw in preparation? If it's a city location no way
     
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  10. JacM

    JacM VIC Buyer's Agent Business Member

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    I would say no to a wood heater / fireplace due to the fire issue and ongoing maintenance obligation. Less is best in a rental. The less stuff provided, the less that has to be maintained.

    Perhaps there are other ways you can be helpful to your landlord in lieu of a rent hike. Perhaps you can mow their lawns or help with painting one of their IPs...
     
  11. wylie

    wylie Moderator Staff Member

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    We also had a offer of the tenant doing the weeding in lieu of a rent increase. I wouldn't have accepted it but my brother did. He looked after the garden so it was less work for him and he kept them at the current rent in exchange for them looking after the weeding and gardening. That allowed my brother to just mow the grass and save time each visit.

    However, the tenants then started complaining about the lack of garden trimming and the weeds! :eek::rolleyes:.

    We couldn't wait to get rid of them. I'm not a hard nosed landlord by any stretch but my brother is too easily swayed.
     
  12. spludgey

    spludgey Well-Known Member

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    As a landlord if I was going to increase the rent and the tenant told me no, but I'll install a fireplace instead, this would be me:
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  13. ExcuseMyFrench

    ExcuseMyFrench Active Member

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    Haha too funny :)
    I wouldn't go about it that way, that would be pretty disrespectful. You all gave me some things to pounder. Will update this thread if we do decide to have the discussion with the landlord.