Tax Tip 82: Taking money from an offset account on an IP and Claiming Interest

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  1. momentum26

    momentum26 Well-Known Member

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    Understand. Thank you!
     
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    Hi Terry, firstly thank you for all the amazing advice you have given! I have a quick question regarding offsets and tax deductability.

    My loan set up is the following
    IP1 Loan A - fixed with no offset
    IP2 Loan B - fixed with no offset
    IP3 Loan C - Variable with 100% offset

    All the incoming and outgoings relating to the 3 IP's (i.e. rent, bills, loan repayments etc) are coming from the one offset account linked to Loan C, as the bank doesn't allow separate accounts per loan (ING).

    Right now I have about $140K in the offset account. If I use some of that money to buy shares, will the interest for Loan C be still tax deductible?

    Thank you
     
  3. Terry_w

    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

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    The offset is just a savings account and doesn't change the deductibility of the loan in any way.
     
  4. Paul@PAS

    Paul@PAS Tax, Accounting + SMSF + All things Property Tax Business Plus Member

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    Or another way... The nature and source of the money in the offset can come from selling crack or stolen money or savings. Does not matter. The nature of the original borrowing is the test and the money in the offset just reduces it
     
  5. Terry_w

    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

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    Or
    You could withdraw the offset money to buy drugs or a used toilet, yet still claim the interest on the loan.
     
  6. craigc

    craigc Well-Known Member

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    Has datto hacked your pc account Terry?
     
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    kierank Well-Known Member

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    Haha.

    Last week, we bought a new car, paid cash from an Offset (holding personal funds) linked to an IP loan.

    The interest on the “car loan“ is tax deductible. You beauty!!!!
     
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    Shamrock1 Well-Known Member

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    I suppose it makes sense I just would have thought the ATO would follow the money trail and point to the use of the $300k for the PPOR a nod therefore not deductible...
     
  9. Terry_w

    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

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    The ATO would follow the money trail. Borrowed money was used to acquire the asset. Putting money into an offset account doesn't pay down the loan as the offset is a separate savings account so putting money in and pulling out doesn't directly change deductibility of interest.
     
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    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

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    And now that link no longer works!
     
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    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

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    New private ruling released today
    Authorisation Number: 1052166807536 https://www.ato.gov.au/law/view/document?docid=EV/1052166807536

    Taxpayer had a IP with Interest only loan which was fully offset. They withdraw cash from the offset and purchased a main residence. Interest on the IP resumed and was deemed to be fully deductible.
     
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    I am going to try this out. Will check with my CA if this works out. Nice little trick.