Syrian Refugees ...Would you sponsor/house a family?

Id also be happy swapping some of the boganic scumbags in this country with boatloafs of refugees

 

Yep, as long as they have proper background checks and didn't 'accidentally' discard their ID.

 

I genuinely think that sanj not directed at you at all seriously you need to chill.

 

I think you misunderstood me, i agree with you too, was merely making an additional point.

Im entirely chilled here

 

Oh ok.

 

Just read from European newspapers that Prime Minister of Finland has promised that his own house (not government owned prime ministers' residence) will be used to house refugees.

And what does our prime minister.... So far nothing, but hopefully he wakes up soon

Personally I think that we should stop the unskilled migrants coming in from 457 visa rorting scams and take more refugees and give those jobs for them

 

From recent data about marriage equality (that's the only one that I've seen the data for) it seems it could be a touch less than half.
But I agree with your overall message, whatever the reason behind this intolerances, it's not acceptable.

So I don't like the institution of religion, but if there is a single Muslim, Jew, Christian, Hindu, etc that doesn't discriminate or push their religion, then I in turn have nothing against them either.
It's just my experience that muslims as a whole tend to be quite intolerant of anything that conflicts (or appears to anyway) with their religion.

 

I just heard that Australian politicians made personal commitments as well. Abbott announced for example that he'll pilot Bonny's chopper to help turn back the boats!

 

If I could I would definitely do it, but I'd be MUCH more partial towards the younger ones, as I believe these are more impressionable and much more likely for me to introduce to the Australian way of life. I wouldn't feel as confident in trying to shelter older generations, not that I wouldn't, it would just be much more challenging and I suppose I would be less influential in improving their life.

The ideal type I would house with me would be ones willing to accept it wasn't Allah that brought them to Australia but rather the goodwill of non-islamic people and they would be empowered to have more informed opinions. Their past of a regressive culture is definitely reversible, but less reversible the older they are.

 

I'm just glad I'm not the one having to make those decisions.

 

I'd like to think that we live in a democracy and have a bit of say in these matters.

 

So, Isis magically appeared after Sadam was removed?

It is a mindless religious mania which has been around since religion was invented, but it's only in the last hundred years probably, that they could gain any sort of traction due to technology and mechanical advances that allow them to do major damage with less.

If Sadam was around, he would probably have murdered another few million of his own people as well.

And don't forget; he invaded Kuwait.

Anyone who takes the attitude and belief of persecuting and killing other folks based on political, religious, ethnic grounds are not fit humans and should not be able to roam the planet freely.

It is the responsibility of the whole world to rid the planet of these sorts of people - which ever Country they are in.

 

25% of homeless are as a result of family violence with a further 15% due to financial issues. Mental health is certainly an issue amongst some long term homeless but is it the cause or the result?

I think you have glossed over this - as a landlord (I presume) you have it in your power to help out at least 40% of the Australian homeless right now rather than waiting for weeks/months for refugees to arrive.

As for your original question, no, I would not help.

Although we have 'likes' since we moved over from SS, I think it's more of a Facebook question where joint horror can be expressed, joint back patting for how altruistic we are can take place, before moving onto the next social media outrage.

 

I agree with everything you said but their beliefs make it such that the last part would almost be impossible. If you believe what you believe regardless of how ludicrous it is then how could they possibly just change your way of thinking for the sake of shelter? You have to understand that for a lot of these people this - life - is just a temporary thing, a transition to something better. Almost nothing you could provide could equal what they think they are due to get in the afterlife.

 

Sadly, much of most religious movements have not moved forward for at least 2,000 years....maybe 10,000 years.

It is true that some of them preach love and tolerance - but this is not knew and has been in humans since the beginning...you don't need any religion for that.

 

I saw the image of the drowned refugee children and have been really effected by it, like most of you here im sure. My first reaction, was similar to yours @Samten, can we take them in? Can everyone do something to help? This is not acceptable. But this has been happening for three years and only now we all want to help because we saw a photo? Maybe only now it became real for a lot of us. The truth is that after giving it much more thought, I realised that it is really not that simple. Australia do need to take in more refugees and I believe that we will, as does every nation with the means to do so. But lets be realistic about this, Haron Monis was a refugee as well, we need to be very careful about who we are letting in to this country. This will have long term effects on this country and we need to accept that in saving a lot of these desperate people, we will also be letting in people who are completely opposed to our values and those who will potentially also look to harm us and our children in the future. This is a very real consideration, but given the situation, it is still a risk that I believe we do have to take.

 

Which the majority of them do. Few of these people are genuine refugees. The little boy pictured drowned wasn't. But that doesn't stop the false narrative being peddled.

 

And how do you know..? Sources?

 

An extensive article about it in yesterdays Herald-Sun.

 

There are people who've been sitting in refugee camps in Kenya for years. Persecuted South Sudanese people who don't get their photos in the media. Their suffering is out of sight and out of mind for most. People in refugee camps waiting for years in the hope they'll gain asylum somewhere, without stampeding and demanding they go where they want right now.

We have homeless and Indigenous people in this country who need the resources that the government is going to spend on bringing more in from overseas, most of whom are of a religion and culture that is in direct contrast to our modern day Australian values. One only needs to walk the streets of certain suburbs in a certain part of the Sydney to realise that multiculturalism is often just a fantasy word spouted from those from far away. Europe is having massive problems with non integration and it hardly takes a genius to know it's not going to get better with current events.