Sydney "haves" and "have nots" and social classism

I don't consider my household 'have nots' (and we own our home - with a mortgage).

But even in our poorer days we predominantly stuck it out for work opportunities - depending on your industry it's hard to build a career outside Sydney.

Also family.

 

My parents have moved to Gunning - we intend to follow them there at some stage. Can't imagine ever being closer to anyone other than my partner and parents!

 

Sydney family snap up Surfers Paradise renovator for $1.1 million - realestate.com.au

 

I think i would agree. Sydney and mel have jobs for lots especially immigrants that the other state caps do not have. This is a key reason why they end up there as then first points of call.
Its not easy in **** like brisbane, perth, adelaide to establish a career, but once established, easier ( than syd/mel) to climb the ladder.

 

Also more media/arts and finance than most others as well.

 

I reckon this has a lot to do with reporting on the housing bubble as well.

If you're in media....Sydney is THE City. Everywhere else is secondary....but if you're in media, you're also (mostly) lowly paid...

A low wage in Sydney provides a journo a lot of ammunition to write housing bubble stories...

 

I lived in Wollongong about 13 years ago, 10min drive to work at the steel mill, 10min walk to the beach, 10min walk to the bars in town. I thought it was alright.

I knew a few people that commuted daily to Sydney CBD by train, it only took an hour. I knew one lady that commuted from Sydney to our office! She lived in Double Bay...

 

yes, among others...
the issue however is climbing the ladder in sydney- fierce competition, and there are fewer positions at that level as well ( although the pay will be great- and also hence the stiff competition).
Sydney also has global competition at that level- you will be competing with top talent from the major centers worldwide. Not so much in substandard towns like brisbane, perth, adelaide.

 

So what is the definition of a have and have not in Sydney??

 

my take, a bit generalised, a bit tongue in cheek, but generally on the money:
haves= good high paying jobs and property usually in eastern suburbs, wants or has some kind of housewife that aspires to star in reality TV shows, kids in private schools. May have a high mortgage, but as long as job is stable, can afford it. Dont care too much about costs of products and services ( rightly or wrongly assume job is stable, have high net worth, perhaps egos as well, and think they will manage no matter what).
Have nots= middle class and likely no property, a safe job yes, but far from high paying and property if they have it is highly mortgaged and they keep a close eye on all expenses.
Have not even a cent= brisbane mostly..dont get me started

 

Agree. And speaking of "jobs" the haves typically also have the same types of nose jobs, boob jobs, plumped lips and eyebrow lifts.

 

Also what is the definition of a high paying job in sydney? Above 200k?

 

So the have-nots in Sydney are Middle Class.

What does that make Middle Class in Brisbane?

 

Trust me...you don't want to know

 

Usually yes.

 

The lucky-ones?

 

Yep..not all of those 'jobs' are unwarranted nor discouraged..

 

Yea maybe 200k over 2 salaries, which I think is very do-able if you choose a partner who has a decent education and doesn't have the emotional maturity of a spoiled child.

I would guess that less than 5% of people get 200k+ for a single salary.

 

Still not much though is it when a dump house is 2 mill