Separating myself from work

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  1. Westnblue

    Westnblue Well-Known Member

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    Ive got to a point where making decent money from developments. I have 2 labourers working for me full time.

    Im finding it hard to seperate myself frorm the phisical & onsite management. Labourers are too inexperienced and need someone to watch over them everyday.

    I would like to just do admin stuff and focus on growing the buisiness.

    Any advice from others who have done the same?
     
  2. Terry_w

    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

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    You just have to delegate and step back. This is hard to do, but if you don't you will be stuck there doing the work forever. If they really are inexperienced then may be you will need to find different more experienced people.
     
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    Scott No Mates Well-Known Member

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    You need a leading hand/foreman not just brawn.

    How are you managing to do this without a building licence?
     
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  4. Ace in the Hole

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    Might be better to subcontract your work out, then your workers will have to be competent and capable to complete work unsupervised, or they don't get paid.
    If this doesn't work, then hire skilled tradesmen rather than labourers.

    Or, do what most people do when starting out and work in the business during the day, and work on the business after hours.
     
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  5. Xenia

    Xenia Well-Known Member

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    Do what you need to do to look after your interests.
    All the theories in the world about stepping back do not pay your bills.
    Look after your business, look after you. Bs theories don't work
     
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    My income is like a yo-yo.

    Every time I step away, profits plummet, step back in, up they go.

    Am yet to meet anyone who has genuinely been able to step away from the business.

    Only ever read about people doing so in books and paid-seminars.

    Anyone here been able to step away for months at a time?
     
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    Nattl3s Well-Known Member

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    No one will care about your business as much as you do. The more your business involves personal service and attention the tougher to step back.
     
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    Scott No Mates Well-Known Member

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    How many of those presenters can step away? They are the face of the presentation so it ain't going to happen (even a guest appearance/host requires a physical presence).
     
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    The Y-man Moderator Staff Member

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    As a manager I have the 80% max rule. If I delegate, at *best* it will be to 80% of my expected outcomes. If it falls short, it usually comes down to me not making my requirements clear (making too many assumptions), not giving enough resources (direction, knowledge, backing etc) to my staff, and very rarely on the talent of the person I delegated to (and that comes back to me anyway for choosing them).

    The Y-man
     
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    Never, at the end of the day an employee will not put the same effort as you would yourself.
     
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  11. Xenia

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    It's all about how much you work.

    As for leaving your J.o.b and becoming a property investor - bs too!
    I cringe every time I hear the word "retiring" on this form.
    I'm only 30 but have a plan to buy property and "retire", who comes up with this stuff????

    There are a few battlers Called "retired property investors" who live off property and don't work but they are living a lifestyle close to poverty and bragging about it - why????
     
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    I'm concerned about your mental well-being and maybe it's a time for a holiday to recharge your batteries and be able to come back to work with vigor. The other day, I had a complete day off from work or studies and it was really wonderful to just walk around in the city area and talking to random people for abit of a chinwag.
     
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    Xenia...how did you pick me from the crowd?

    You must be psychic? :p

    Be careful.....the great unwashed will be upon ya.....;)

     
  14. Xenia

    Xenia Well-Known Member

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    Waaaaaaat?
    Lol
     
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    Ya...know the people who subscribe to principle of Boganomics:

    1. Tall poppy syndrome...
    2. Their retirement maths is skewed and does not consider inflation...they say they can live on 50k per annum...but inflation was a forgotten thought
    3. If you made it but did not grow up poor or had a solid degree sort of edumacation...then you had it easy on wealth road...god forbid if you were a highly paid professional
    4. They say youse...not you.....
    5. You have to be sexist to be in the club.....:p
    6. Above all...spruiking has a different name depending on who you are....

    Youse get my drift don't cha..ya....

    Nutin a malacca slap won't sort. ;)
     
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    Hearing ya.
    It's national "kick a ****** in the butt" week :)
     
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    At that rate you might have to open a ******ria....it could be very profitable...people will be lining up. :D
     
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  18. Westnblue

    Westnblue Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the advice everyone.

    Im thinking start with site manager at $70k pa. and just see how things go for a year.
     
  19. Scott No Mates

    Scott No Mates Well-Known Member

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    Did you leave off a "1"?
     
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  20. NHG

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    I know a handful of people who 'left' their JoBs to invest full time.

    There's actually a long process involved and all it really is, is upgrading your job to a high paying, more stressful one.

    From what I've seen, part-time investor, full time employee has the more consistent higher return.

    My comment about the seminars and books being the only place I hear about being financially free is just that. It sells seminars and books. I don't for a second believe they can walk away.

    Ace-in-the-hole said it once a year or two ago. $100k passive is very little when actually retired. You'd burn through it so fast. You'd need at least 3x that just to maintain current lifestyle.

    Not saying you can't retire on less. Just it will impact on your lifestyle.

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