Same sex marriage

What? It really is not that long since 'the other side' voted against marriage equality.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-09-19/same-sex-marriage-bill-voted-down/4270016

 

They currently may be exempt, but new legislation may simply follow a 'blanket yes' and exempt no one and no situations. On the contrary, it will give militant LGBTI to give it one to the (hated) other side and use the law to enforce their presence and 'legitimacy' in the midst of the other side, just for the h*** of it. One 'meaningful' achievement in life to aspire to in some groups and philosophies. There are many precedents overseas.

 

Why would it though? It would go against the grain of countless pieces of existing legislation and require hundreds of costly and time consuming amendments which would all have to go through Parliament.

It would be an idiotic idea and would simply not make it through the federal legal team before making it to Parliament to be voted on, simply because of the practical aspects.

I'm not looking at this from a philosophical view. It's purely practical. An amendment to the marriage act to read between two consenting adults rather than a man and woman is all that is required, and it would retain all legal protections against claims of discrimination that religious organisations would otherwise face.

To claim otherwise is paranoia.

 

Oh please dont bring this slippery slope nonsense up.

Religions should absolutely have a say in how things work within their walls. Outside thrir walls they need to shut the hell up and this applies to all religions.

This is a secular country.

 

I think you are confusing social policy and socialists. Whats next, a royal commission in to the rugby union?

 

Hey; we finally agree!!

Further to that - and this will upset all the religious folks - any religion that is still advocating anti-gay anything needs to do a serious upgrade of beliefs.

My religion is atheism.

 

It is not correct to state that this will upset all the religious folks. Yes, I know Churches are anti-gay, anti-women, anti-fun and all, but a 2011 Galaxy Poll found that the majority (53%) of Christians [presumably surveyed] are open to allowing same-sex marriage.

http://www.australianmarriageequality.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/marriagereligion.pdf

The evidence suggests we are going to have to give them a break on this one

 

Plenty of countries on our doorstep who still believe that these people should be put to death, incarcerated etc. No one has sought their opinions.

Is popular opinion right just because it's popular?

 

Totally agree ... the polls show a high majority of Australians are pro change, so don't understand why the government doesn't just make the amendment - get the issue off the media table - and then get on with running the country.

Personally, I don't care if people are gay or not - I don't ask - I accept people as they are. I also am more than happy for same sex marriage as it won't affect my marriage and life, but it will enhance the life of others ... not to disregard the boom in Hunter Valley weddings so more business for me

 

hate?
hole?
hack?
half?
halo?
halt?
hear?
here?

So many options, help us out bro.

 

hell.

 

I know ending discrimination is more important than money, but I think the boom in the wedding and associated industries has been well underestimated. Supposedly the Australian economy is declining, maybe this would be the welcome boost that it needs!

 

As a liberal voter, I support gay marriage being allowed. What I don't want to see happening though is couples complaining /suing because xyz business or celebrant didn't want to be part of it.

I think the politicians not doing a conscience vote is potentially a good thing. Take it to a ref and let it be a public decision.

 

I tend to agree. We aren't america

I wouldn't have any objection to small businesses being protected from action if they choose not to sell to someone. In Australia, if we don't like a businesses attitude, we simply take our business elsewhere. We don't try to sue everyone who doesn't do what we want.

 

Heh. Gotta be pretty square to self-censor that.

Hail Satan!

 

I only hear excuses around why it shouldn't be allowed, not reasons.

 

Found the radio really amusing whilst driving this morning - there was an interview with Bill Shorten who rattled all the other countries who began allowing same sex marriage in 2003, 2004, 2005, etc etc

If his party is concerned about Australian being behind the pack, why didn't they organise it during their 6-7 yr tenure?