Refugee kiddies in Nauru make a video "Get us out of here, please, I'm begging you!"

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  1. Azazel

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    How do they get on the plane with no documents?
     
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    The government owes a duty of care, especially to the children in detention. Australia is breaching international human rights laws by detaining these children. That's not debatable; that's a fact.

    These children are exhibiting signs of mental illness from their incarceration. What compounds their suffering is that they are often surrounded by adults with mental illness. Whether the adults' mental illness is as a result of confinement/detention or stems from their country of origin, it doesn't matter--we have a responsibility to keep the children safe, and we are clearly failing.

    https://www.humanrights.gov.au/sites/default/files/document/publication/forgotten_children_2014.pdf

    During the Senate inquiry, it was reported that a cleaner had raped a woman when she had gone to use the bathroom at night time. None of the security guards or any other staff of the companies running the centre are screened.

    Claims guards traded cigarettes for sexual favours on Nauru, Senate inquiry told
     
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    You really think it is as simple as that? If there from say Syria where should they go?
     
  4. Esel

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    They dont. You cant catch a flight without a visa and i.d. Thats why they often come over land or by boat.
     
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    What a load of nonsense. Someone's refugee status is independent of their wealth.
     
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    So what you're saying is if you're a rich "refugee", it's ok to break the law.
     
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    Thank you for this post. It really helps to clear all the misunderstanding and ignorance around the subject. It is shameful how some people think about the matter.
     
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    The United Nations Special Rapportuer on Torture has found that various aspects of Australia’s asylum seeker policies violate the Convention Against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment. The Torture Convention prohibits subjecting people to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment. The report confirms that by leaving people locked up indefinitely in appalling conditions on a remote island, Australia is failing to meet this basic standard.

    Also, the United Nations Human Rights Committee has found Australia to be in breach of its obligations under international law, committing 143 human rights violations by indefinitely detaining 46 refugees for four years, on the basis of ASIO's ‘adverse security assessments’
     
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  12. Ed Barton

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    You said that, not me.

    Seeking refuge is not breaking the law.
     
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    Who said anything about seeking refuge? Travelling without documents across borders is breaking the law. Paying people smugglers is breaking the law. People smuggling is breaking the law. Entering a country without papers is breaking the law. Asking for asylum when they arrive is not breaking the law but then again, no one here has said it was.
     
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    So by your definition, nobody has a right to leave their country without papers. People fleeing ISIS in Syria are illegal. People escaping from a possible massacre in Burundi are illegal. Afghanistan, Iran ...

    Unions in frantic efforts to save Burundi from genocide
     
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    Also Australia does not belong to white anglo saxons who are descendants of people who killed the natives of this country and stole their land.
    It is not YOUR country and if you can live here then everyone else can too. Australia is multicultural.

    If everyone went back to their own country the only people left here would be Aboriginal people - and probably left in peace too.
     
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  16. THX

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    No. It means they can be in breach of a country's immigration laws (if they breach the conditions of article 31) while at the same time not be in breach of international law.
     
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    You said that people leaving or entering a country without papers are breaking the law. Now you're changing what you've said. Not the first time in this thread.
     
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    And they are, the immigration laws of that country. You seem to be confused, that one can't be in breach of local law because they are not in breach of international law. Eh? When have I changed what I said. I'm following the UNHCR refugee convention, not memes and youtube videos. Maybe you think they are more important than the law or facts, *shrugs*.
     
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    The REAL natives of Australia ( Aboriginals ) should decide the future of the refugees ! !
     
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