Refinancing, what to do with equity?

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  1. SupaRex

    SupaRex Well-Known Member

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    Hello,

    I currently have four IP's, each securing one loan (all I/O). I'm going to be moving into one of them in the near future. I need to refinance them all so I have the PPoR securing the correct amount of debt (the original purchase price). I intend to convert the loan associated with the PPoR to a P/I loan.

    When I refinance the four loans, I expect I will have built up quite a bit of equity. My question is, what can I do with this equity? I can't service any more debt at the moment (and I don't really want to right now).

    The only idea I came up with was to get a LoC to pay my investment expenses.

    I'd welcome any ideas/suggestions etc about what I might do with this extra equity.

    Thank you as always,
    SupaRex
     
  2. Jess Peletier

    Jess Peletier Mortgage Broker & Finance Strategy, Aus Wide! Business Member

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    What's the PPOR securing now?
     
  3. SupaRex

    SupaRex Well-Known Member

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    The PPoR is currently a rental that I'll be moving into. It's securing one loan, but due to refinancing in the past, it is securing more than the original purchase price. I intend to refinance to the correct level (with my accountant's help) and distribute the extra to the other three loans (all deductible as originally all four IPs were just that - IPs).
     
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    Jess Peletier Mortgage Broker & Finance Strategy, Aus Wide! Business Member

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    Good that your accountant is on the job, it sounds messy!

    If you can't service any additional debt it's probably unlikely that you'll be able to create a new LOC - the banks view servicing more conservatively than the average persons personal budget, so if your budget won't allow it, it's highly unlikely the bank will.
     
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    SupaRex Well-Known Member

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    I could service a LoC that I was using for just expenses, what I more meant was I couldn't service a full blown home loan.
     
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    Jess Peletier Mortgage Broker & Finance Strategy, Aus Wide! Business Member

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    Chat to your accountant about the LOC also, the ATO can sometimes deny deductions on this so best to get his tick of approval first.
     
  7. SupaRex

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    Thanks Jess, I will. I had no intention of using the LoC to make interest repayments (I know that's a no-no), I was thinking of PM fees (if possible) and maintenance.

    LoC aside, do you have any suggestions about how I could productively use any extra equity I find I have?
     
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    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

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    This sounds dangerous to me.

    Can you give some rough numbers?
     
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    Originally paid $250k for the property with a $25k deposit, so $225k. This was an IP remember. Refinanced and used some cash to buy next IP, and so on. Through the refinances, I know have the IP I intend to move into securing about $300k. Remember - as of right now, all my properties are IPs.

    Once I move into the IP and it becomes a PPoR, I don't want to be paying off $300k, I want to be paying off $225 - the original purchase price less the deposit I paid.

    That's my plan/understanding anyway. Happy (well, not happy, but I'd like) to be be corrected if I'm wrong.
     
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    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

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    Yes, that sounds fine. Split the loan to $225k and claim the other portions of the remaining loans against the properties that the loans related to.
     
  11. Jess Peletier

    Jess Peletier Mortgage Broker & Finance Strategy, Aus Wide! Business Member

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    Possibly income producing shares would be worth looking into. Depends on your cashflow/budget/priorities.
     
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    Thanks Terry. I didn't even think of simply splitting the loan. That would be much easier. While I'm here, thanks for your "Tax Tips" section, reading through them now :)
     
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    Hi Jess, thank you for the suggestion :)
     
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