Health & Family Quitting alcohol and social life

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  1. datto

    datto Well-Known Member

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    Two cartons of JD in one sitting (on your own) and you're in the Druitt!
     
  2. Chris Au

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    We stoppeddrinking earlier this year. Shaved inches off the waist and the bank balance (is/was) healthier. After a few pauses with friends, they don't care, we just buy a ginger beer and all's good. I don't work at a place where we go out for drinks, but I could imagine the pressure if you're in corporate company where a round is the norm.

    You could go half way?? Not drink with those you can trust/are close friends, and when the situation needs it, have a few (unless health is requiring you to stop all alcohol).
     
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    Good for you! Nothing wrong with still going out to be social with friends and having a soft drink - you might even get cred if your the designated driver and give someone a free ride home!
     
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    I really don't understand how Social life and Alcohol need to be grouped together. People do many things socially without the need for alcohol.
    Real people don't value your worth on how much you can drink!
     
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  5. wylie

    wylie Moderator Staff Member

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    I'm glad I'm not the only one who just hasn't struck any problems with this when I was working. I'm a woman though, so perhaps it is more a "blokey" thing? But I was in the corporate world. I didn't drink much, sometimes a rum and coke, and often just soft drink.

    Socially it was never a problem. Work drinks were always social. Perhaps it has more to do with networking than the social type of events where you are catching up with friends who know you aren't a big drinker?
     
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    Join a CrossFit Gym - the only pressure you will feel is your thighs burning! ;)
     
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    geoffw Moderator Staff Member

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    I've normally had very few problems

    But over Christmas, I was with daughter's inlaws. FIL could not cope with me not drinking, even though the same thing happens frequently. Every time we meet, he's asking me if I want a drink. It happened on several times on Christmas day. I was given a bottle of Jim Beam.

    At one stage, he stated that I'm not a real man if I don't drink.
     
  8. wylie

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    Sounds like a man who likes to drink needing to justify his drinking to a man strong enough to stand up and state he doesn't want to drink.
     
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    geoffw Moderator Staff Member

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    He doesn't drink very much himself. In a way, he's probably stronger than me, because he can have just one or two drinks.
     
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    wylie Moderator Staff Member

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    Go figure. What a strange comment to make then if that is the case...
     
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    Tacky in the extreme. Sadly, I discovered if I let on why i don't drink much at all it is seen as a weakness and gives them another avenue to denigrate you.
     
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    I’m a drinker who hasn’t drunk anything except tea and water for quite some time. The only thing I found is that going out to eat can be quite boring. Christmas lunch I was ready to bolt after half an hour.

    My going out drink: soda water with ice and lemon and lime slices. Everyone thinks I am drinking gin or vodka.
     
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  13. Simon Hampel

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    Travelling through Asia for work back when I was in the corporate world was quite enlightening - drinking heavily was "how business is done" in many areas I found. I recall late night drinking excursions with clients or local business managers in Seoul, Singapore, Beijing and Shenzhen.

    Fortunately I've been out of that corporate world for a long time now and none of our social circle are heavy drinkers - or perhaps we just don't get invited to social events where heavy drinking is expected? Doesn't bother me - wouldn't want to be there anyway.

    My mum was never able to drink due to liver problems - but was quite anti-alcohol anyway after her childhood where her father's abuse of alcohol caused a massive mount of grief for the family. Dad's family were Lutheran farmers and so liked their beer and wines - but Dad was never a heavy drinker anyway (probably more my mum's influence) - I have never seen him have more than a glass or two of wine.

    My wife's parents had similar stories - being exposed to extended family who had alcohol problems made them very negative towards it - I've never seen either of my in-laws drink alcohol at all.

    I find that alcohol doesn't agree with me anyway - don't seem to be able to digest it. If I have even a small amount, it will repeat on me for the next 24 hours. Even some types of vanilla essence has a bit of alcohol in it and repeats terribly on me! So I generally avoid alcohol these days because it's not a pleasant thing.

    I don't have a problem with people drinking alcohol. I do have a problem with people being idiots.

    I think a large part of the whole "not trusting someone who doesn't drink" is more about control - if you are drinking along with everyone else, then you are presumably losing control along with them and everyone is "equal". If you are the only one maintaining control, then it could be taken as you seeking to manipulate the others - you hold the power because you aren't drunk, and that makes others nervous. At least that's how I interpret some of the sentiment I've experienced over the years. Games people play.
     
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    The new Carlton Zero beer is quite tolerable (in small quantities). It actually has .01% alcohol - it would take 45 of those to give you as much alcohol as a standard normal beer. It's a good drink when coming inside after working in the garden.
     
  15. Simon Hampel

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    Probably more just "insensitive" then? Can't understand why you might choose to abstain rather than expose yourself to the risk of over-consumption? (ie just doesn't "get it" ?)
     
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    I'm not even sure why it should even be a topic of conversation over again. Yes, he doesn't "get it". But we've had the same conversation before. When pushed, I've said more than once that I've previously had a problem. That should be the end of the topic.

    He's an older guy from a different culture. I like him, and my daughter has a good partner with his son. I just would like to move on with this issue.
     
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    My parents were strong teetollers, for religious reasons, like all four grandparents before them. I took up alcohol partly as a rebellion, and partly because I found it helped me to socialise better. I always felt a bit awkward. But then I didn't learn the control that somebody who learnt to drink at home may (or may not?) have learnt.

    My father started to drink quite heavily in later years, after my mother went into care. That didn't continue though when he went into care.
     
  18. paulF

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    That shows a lot of ignorance and character flaws in him ... or maybe it was the alcohol speaking.

    I've been called a dooshbag by a close friend once when i said i'm off the drink again. I simply smiled and moved on as i realised that he is simply talking out of his own insecurities.

    I ended drinking this Christmas day because i felt like and i'm not talking about a drink or two.
    But last week, i had a few work functions and dinners out with friends and didn't have a sip. When asked why not drinking, i simply said that i didn't feel like it.
     
  19. Buynow

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    Reading all the comments and abstaining from alcohol sounds like abstaining from religion - some will judge or ostracise you for not drinking alcohol and also for not being religious.

    Personally, I drink alcohol but have no issues with those who abstain. I don’t do religion and get on fine with those who are religious, although must admit to finding religious belief (in the absence of evidence) to be weird.
     
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    JacM VIC Buyer's Agent - Melbourne, Geelong, Ballarat Business Member

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    Show your friends photos of the properties you're adding to your empire with the savings you've made from not buying alcohol? :cool:
     
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