Question about PPOR Mortgage & Share Investment

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  1. TaylorTako

    TaylorTako Active Member

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    Yes @Terry_w I have read this loan structure, I like the idea of all income going into the offset and putting expenses on an interest free credit card..

    Just so you get a better understanding of my situation, I would be investing in shares in an index fund that returns (on average) 11.6% (roughly half dividends/half growth).

    My current loan is a P&I PPOR with an LVR of about 95% (I know - I need to improve this, part of my goal this year). My current interest rate is 4.29%.

    Using my current loan with the low interest rate, I could use a LOC (Would need to get LVR below 80% first), with a rate of 5.87%.

    OR

    I could refinance my CBA loan into a Standard variance IO loan, with an interest rate of 5.22%.But would have the benefit of freedom in setting up splits to draw down and flexibility.
    The downside would be a slightly (about 1%) higher interest rate than the previous set up..
    I could set up something similar to your Tax Tip #13 structure..

    Just by looking at this at a high-level, personally, what would you opt for ?
     
  2. Terry_w

    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

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    With a :VR of 95% you would have paid considerable LMI so I would be reluctant to move especially with it not being deductible.
     
  3. Jess Peletier

    Jess Peletier Mortgage Broker & Finance Strategy, Aus Wide! Business Member

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    Your broker should be able to bring this down significantly if you're taking the MAV package. Will most likely be mid to lowish 4% at the high LVR for the IO SVR. Probably around 4.75% (ish) for the LOC splits if that's how you decide to go.

    I'm not sure why this is such a big deal and your broker isn't taking charge of it - it's actually quite straight forward (unless he/she is used to set and forget owner occupier loans, which may be the case).

    You are maybe confusing what a LOC is - it's just a loan product and you can switch your current loan into a LOC very easily - as I said before, just a form with CBA. No need to draw on equity and no need for a new application.

    Because you've paid such a large amount of LMI, just splitting and switching the loan to an appropriate product/s and changing to IO will be a much better option than refinancing to another bank.
     
  4. TaylorTako

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    Thanks again for the responses guys,

    You're definitely right about the refinancing, that's not really an option. @Terry_w

    With that MAV discount you mentioned @Jess Peletier , it seems you're right.. I think the best thing would be switch to the standard variable rate
    for that flexibility and ability to offset/split, the MAV discount will reduce my rate to 4.72%.

    Now just to work out WHEN to change over, the house is currently being built at the moment, so it's only interest only, currently paying 4.29% interest which is pretty good for the time being, I don't really see any benefit to change over just yet.

    Not sure if you have any thoughts about that? if not, thanks again for all the assistance!
     
  5. Angel

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    hello Taylor
    A quick question about the Noel Whittaker book you read. How old is it? Why I ask is that he has done some great stuff but if it is a very old edition, the products Jess, Rolf and Terry mention may not have existed. For example I just looked through my copies first published in the 1990s and there is no VAS or LOC in the indexes.
     
  6. TaylorTako

    TaylorTako Active Member

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    Hi @Angel ,

    I'm using one of his latest editions.

    He doesn't specifically mention VAS, which is an ETF, I did my own research for this.

    I'm relatively sure there is discussion of LOC's in my edition.

    Hope that helps.
     
  7. Angel

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    All good then.