Property management fees

Discussion in 'Property Management' started by Trall, 19th Apr, 2021.

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  1. Trall

    Trall Member

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    Question for a general opinion:

    Why are property management fees a percentage of rental income?

    (Do cheaper rental properties simply receive less attention from a property manager?)


    Bonus question: Why do property management fees in Perth seem to be consistently higher than in the eastern states?
     
  2. Scott No Mates

    Scott No Mates Well-Known Member

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    Because it costs more to operate the business in WA - days are shorter due to no daylight savings yet they still have to pay the same wages bill.
     
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  3. Tom Rivera

    Tom Rivera Property Manager Business Member

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    Great question!

    WA is higher because it's become the norm for the fees to be higher in WA. I don't think there are any significant operational costs/differences to explain it.

    In the U.S.A Property Managers are university educated and paid a six figure wage, go figure!

    I don't think anyone really looks at the net fee at the end of the month and decides to vary their service level based on the rent of a particular property, but by the same token you could hopefully expect a better standard of service in a more expensive area as a result of that agency receiving higher overall fees.

    I'd really love to charge a fixed fee, which I think would be fairer to the clients who have higher rents and therefore pay more, but I worry that it's not the norm in the market and would put people off.
     
  4. Scott No Mates

    Scott No Mates Well-Known Member

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    So are most of the PMs for commercial/industrial/retail property - expected to hold B Prop Economics or equivalent.
     
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  5. Clean Cookie

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    Do you think it's fair to ask for a lower % rate when you've got an above average property next to another essentially identical property for 45% less rent? This is my exact experience. Same street a 3/1/1 is rented for near enough half the cost of my renovated property. Which should, being newly fitted out should have way less issues for them to attend to! I'd rather a fixed fee because it's simply easier. I'm very happy with the service and I did negotiate a slightly lower rate, but I still feel it's overly expensive.
     
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    Scott No Mates Well-Known Member

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    Do you discount your chargeout rate (or increase it) based on the expected difficulty of the work?
     
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    JetstreamVic Well-Known Member

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    I’ll hit a mark

    5.5% inc gst
    First contract 1 week rent payable
    No charge for the resigning of a lease
    Nil charge for email statement
    Nil charge for annual eofy paper statement
     
  8. inertia

    inertia Well-Known Member

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    Charge out rates are usually hourly based.

    I would argue that a lower priced rental might actually take more time out of a PMs day to manage.
     
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    Scott No Mates Well-Known Member

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    Low rent can also equate to low expectations vs high priced rental and high maintenance tenant eg. if you're paying $2k/wk you want your money's worth - pool cleaner/lawns maintenance bod didn't show up, inclinator/winch on boat ramp not working etc
     
  10. Owl

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    I assume the "commission" approach is designed to align the interests of the owner and the PM at the point of fixing the rent. On a commission basis, the PM is usually focused on getting the property tenanted asap at or above market rent.