Percentage Of Loans On P&I

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What percentage of your total loans is on P&I repayments?

  1. Zero. Everything is interest-only

    18 vote(s)
    29.0%
  2. up to 20%

    4 vote(s)
    6.5%
  3. 21-40%

    9 vote(s)
    14.5%
  4. 41-60%

    8 vote(s)
    12.9%
  5. 61-80%

    5 vote(s)
    8.1%
  6. 81-100%

    18 vote(s)
    29.0%
  1. Befuddled

    Befuddled Well-Known Member

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    It's been a while since the pricing difference has opened up between interest-only and P&I loans.

    At circa ~0.5% difference, many people have chosen to deleverage by switching a portion of their portfolios to P&I.

    What percentage of the value of your total loans (PPOR included) is now on P&I terms?

    I'm sitting in the 30s range and looking to move to 40-50%

    Bonus question: why?
     
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  2. Beano

    Beano Well-Known Member

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    Can you expand on your question ?
    If you have 10 loans and 5 are P and I is the answer 50pc?
    Or
    If your total mortgage payment is say $100k and $50k is principal is the answer 50pc?
     
  3. Befuddled

    Befuddled Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, total value, not total number of loans.

    eg: If total loans is 1mil and 300k of which is P&I then 30%. Not factoring in number of loans
     
  4. Perthguy

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    Around 50%

    Lower rates and to reduce debt. This was always part of my investment plan.
     
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  5. WattleIdo

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    72% on P&I. Soon to increase? Haven't decided yet.
    Basically, I've always preferred P&I because I don't like paying more interest than I have to. I like seeing the balance decrease and most of the time the P&I rates have made more sense than not.
    I have certainly enjoyed IO for a while. The first time I used it I didn't like it but the 2nd time was wonderful and allowed me a good stretch off work.
    While I'm working, P&I fits in with the routine.
     
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  6. Gypsyblood

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    100%

    Did not want to borrow what I couldn’t afford to pay up, for the rates, for the peace of mind, to reduce loan, cz I don’t seem to be able to just hoard it so I need to direct it in a way that I’m not giving what I can’t afford to give away.
     
  7. sash

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    100% I/O......I luv jumping off cliffs........
     
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  8. Morgs

    Morgs Well-Known Member Business Member

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    I find lots of investors blissfully unaware they're paying a premium for IO these days. Not only that but they're paying more than a 0.5% gap to a P&I refinance. Lots of money to be saved if you can handle the cashflow, and hopefully you can because IO rates don't last forever like they used to...
     
  9. kierank

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    I am currently dealing with Suncorp and, for an investment loan fixed for 3 years, their rate is 4.29% whether it is I/O or P&I (if one has paid their package fee).

    Makes it hard for me to choose P&I.

    Home Loan Interest Rates
     
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  10. sash

    sash Well-Known Member

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    I luv Suncorp...they are relatively easy to deal with unlike CBA and St George these days.
     
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    Do you have a lot of 'spare cash' tucked away somewhere, or are they hugely CF+, so when they revert to P&I, you'll still be ok?
     
  12. sash

    sash Well-Known Member

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    BOTH $1.6m cash and 120k Cf+
     
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  13. Befuddled

    Befuddled Well-Known Member

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    Interesting spread. 3yrs ago 80%+ would have gone with the first option.
     
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  14. Perthguy

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    I got a loan with St George. They didn't know where to put the money, so they put it back into the loan. I asked them how to get the money out of the lisn they didn't know. So I asked them some questions, figured it out for them and tokd them what to do. 4 hours later I had my money. The bank drones were nice but not very good at problem solving. Lucky I am very good at problem solving :D
     
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  15. Perthguy

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    Yep. Adapt and thrive! :)
     
  16. Angel

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    Why? Because it was refinance on the bank's terms, or sell our PPOR. Moving house didnt appeal, so P&I it is.
     
  17. mikey7

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    Poor is PI, IP's are IO.
    Will make it 100% PI when the PPOR is paid off.
     
  18. Blacky

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    At this point 100%IO as we are stashing cash for our PPOR.
    Doesn’t make sense to repay deductible debt, to then draw it out for non-deductible purposes.

    Once the PPoR is purchased and paid off. We will direct cash to debt reduction.

    Blacky
     
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