Technology & Social Media NBN Co. - is it just spin or results?

Mate, you can go for the 50Mbps or 100Mbps NBN options if you like. Or you can go for Optus cable.
Most people don't need anywhere near this speed. I'm on 12Mbps NBN as that's all we need (an I work in IT!! so know, and don't need to overpay for 100Mbps, which I won't need). And we also work from home sometimes (conference calls, web video calls), downloads, and stream TV and other shows.
Yeah, Google has 1Gbps in some areas of USA, and Asian has the same. But seriously, offices have 1Gbps networks . At this stage, which households even needs data bandwidth anything remotely close to what whole offices of people need.
12Mbps = 12 /8 bytes = 1.5MBs. = 1.5MBs *60 *60 = 5400 MB/hr (5.4GB/hr). Is 5.4GB/hr not enough to stream your high def DVD quality porn Indifference

 

LOL... indeed... my main gripe is the dodgey roll out. a.k.a. poor program management.
Poorly managed, poor installs, expensive...

I agree 100% that speeds (for now) are more than adequate however considering how our nation is populated versus its geography, a one size fits all approach seems dumb. Also, one has to ponder how soon will it be before technology advances swamp the NBN data transfer rates...

The internet of things is advancing at a stellar rate. Just count the number of connected "things" in a modern household. 10-15 would be average I suggest. How long before that doubles or triples? Even WiFi light globes are becoming common! (yes i know the difference between a LAN & an external port...) I guess my fear for Australia is that by the time the NBN is fully rolled out, will it still be technologically relevant & could the funds have been better spent by investing in alternate technologies or implementing a hybrid network?

I'm glad I've got it & it suits my current needs but I don't believe we'll see another internet technology advance implemented nationally anytime soon, so is it a case of too little too late?

 

Disagree. You've fallen for the usual NBN sucks media misinformation.
Why not wireless?
NBN's Cable Network Upgrades Could Increase Speeds To 21Gbps
(it's like looking at copper lines at dial-up internet time, and saying, we are screwed) - it was pushed all the way to ADSL2 speeds.
The NBN backbone and at least "to node" foundation will be in place. Sufficient for quite a while.

 

^^^ this

 

Sure, the NBN "could" do & be a lot of things... but what about what "is". Compared to my experience living/working in other 1st world countries, the NBN is certainly a positive step, but still sub-par to what "already" exists elsewhere. I'm not demonising the NBN, I'm just not convinced based on my experiences elsewhere on this planet. Happy to be wrong, really I would be ecstatic. The Government's track record with managing large technology based national projects is not exactly stellar. I think I have some reason to be sceptical.

We will lose some (or more) of our technological standing this century if we're not careful. No high speed rail (only continent without it), ailing water management & infrastructure, average (not great) telecommunications.... but the government says we should "embrace the future" with the NBN as it is world class. Thanks Malcolm, the jury is still out on whether you deliver on the promise. Please convince us otherwise by delivering on the promise. Please, just this once.....

 

None in North America either - linky

 

You have to look at the size of the country.
You can't compare the internet to countries like Singapore, Japan, etc. Small land masses.
You can't compare high speed rail to Japan or Europe. Sydney to Melbourne or Brisbane is 1000km alone. How many European countries does 1000km span!.
Water Management & Infrastructure - blame the greenies. Dams - no way (will hurt some rare green frog somewhere) - and besides - Tim Flannery said it won't rain enough anyway to fill dams, freeways (just look at the hippies having a hissy-fit over the Sydney West Connex).

It's not the size, it's what you do with it You don't need ultra high speed internet, to be technologically leading the world.

 

I'll probably go for the 100Mbps => 5.4GB/hr is just barely enough for one person at our place

We have 3-4 peeps trying to stream here all the time. But, of course that's impossible on ADSL2+
Reduces me to dial-up speeds every night - I can't wait to get it

 

Oh really... Amtrak National Facts | Amtrak

Top speed of 241 km/h & over half Amtrak trains operate at top speeds 160 km/h or more. Please name one "operating" train that gets even close to that in Australia..... Sure its no Shinkansen, but it is decent.

FWIW, 200 km/h on existing track or 250 km/h on new track is the internationally accepted standard. High-speed Rail |

 

NBN a $20.3 Billion White Elephant… and Counting

"To summarise, NBN Co has already spent $20.3 billion since 2009. And just how many homes are connected to the NBN? Just 1.1 million.
To put that in perspective, each connection so far, has cost NBN Co $18,454. That’s one expensive internet connection. And how much are households paying for the service? [Cough] They’re paying an average of $43 per month.
If we valued each connection as we would a ‘company’, it means connection costs are priced at a price-to-earnings (PE) ratio of 35-times."

 

Stop ready rubbish websites Azazel. The NBN weekly progress report is now at 3,005,026 households NBN ready as of Aug 11 2016. Yes of those, 1,218,899 have activated switched to NBN (from ADSL2, etc). But there are now over 3million households "NBN ready". The fact someone has not switched to NBN yet does not make it a "white elephant". Just lazy people!!
The NBN weekly progress report link is below. You can see the weekly numbers.
http://www.nbnco.com.au/content/dam...ollout-metrics/nbn-rollout-metrics-110816.pdf

 

Is it really laziness? or have people voted with their phones and dumped their land lines in preference of their mobiles. If they don't have a land line and rely on wireless, then there's no need to connect.

 

What has that got to do with NBN internet??. Clearly you don't understand anything about the NBN. You generally still have the copper line to most premise, you just don't need it connected for NBN (like you did with ADSL2). When we switched, we got rid of the Telstra land-line. Just use mobile for calls (so have no fixed landline number at all). But can have VOIP (Voice Over IP) setup later over the NBN Network, if we wish.
And NBN comes in 3 flavours. Wireless, Satellite, of the Fibre. Salellite, etc for more remote areas. So you can get Wireless NBN as well. Check the Weekly NBN report. There are 412,777 premises covered by Satellite NBN now, and 427,505 covered by Wireless NBN .

 

They are still lazy. Dumb people using their 8GB mobile data quota, instead of switching to NBN Wireless internet plans in locations available (cheaper, and much more data)
NBN Wireless Plans | NBN fixed wireless network | NBN Wireless Broadband
Not all areas of course, it's in selected towns and estates across Australia.

 

I am a luddite but from Telstra's website or Telstra's information below is clearly incorrect/misleading & so is Whistleout: - what part of "Telstra's existing copper network will be switched off" have I misunderstood?


or whistleout:

 

Depends whether your FTTP (Fibre to Premise) or FTTN/FTTB (Fibre to Node/Fibre to Building).
Most households will still have copper lines connected (historically).
How is FTTP different from FTTN?
The NBN technology changes from to VDSL (from the old ADSL). The node to home connection is still via the copper line. I assume the other websites are talking about the "last mile" eventually (ie, all FTTP).
But the copper line is not active with a service provider like Telstra (like it was with ADSL). Activating NBN effectively cancels the Telstra service ("switches it off"). Maybe it's sementics. You have the copper line, but not an active phone service.

 

But if these customers require a phone but not internet they must connect to the NBN as the legacy copper will not lie with a Telstra service but with NBN.

When NBN propose to connect my properties they are aware of the requirements under Schedule 3 of the Telco Act - low impact determinations and will be required to serve a LAAN.

 

I have a question regarding NBN.

It's FTTN right?

If I live in a strata block obviously to bring it in to the complex will be a cost for Strata. How much would that cost? Then to take it from the distribution box underground up to my own property to effectively give me FTTP, how much would that cost me personally?

 

@Dan Donoghue - fibre to the basement or MDF room should be covered by the NBN.Any installation beyond that will be at your cost..

FTTN stops away from the building in a shelter or street cabinet then relies on the copper services toyour unit. So $0