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NBN Co. - is it just spin or results?

Discussion in 'Living Room' started by Scott No Mates, 23rd Aug, 2016.

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Are you satisfied with the NBN rollout?

  1. Yes, got it/lurve it

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  2. Yes, but meh

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  3. No but can't wait

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  4. No, what's NBN

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  1. Scott No Mates

    Scott No Mates Well-Known Member

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    I came across this article as a link to the NBN rollout.

    Have they really connected 25% of homes?

    Who's got it? Who's missed out? Or when's it coming?

    Our area is on the never never plan, how does yours stack up?

    #nbnfail
     
  2. D.T.

    D.T. Adelaide Property Manager Business Member

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    Its incredibly poorly done but has potential to be great
     
  3. Indifference

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    Got it... install was botched by dodgey NBN contractors & speed is very underwhelming at about 1/3 of what I had living in the USA.

    If you've had ADSL2 then don't expect much more from the NBN... unless of course you hit the NBN jackpot & get something close to the political spin promises....
     
  4. Azazel

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    I remember before the election a few years ago they put ads on saying NBN was available, to contact them about connecting. BS political advertising, it was hardly available anywhere.
    It's such a money pit and a joke, mega budget blowout and way over schedule.
     
  5. hobo

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    We had two appointments scheduled - initial one for last Tues (for start of instillation, or maybe to scope where connection would be etc), then completion of installation today.

    Didn't show last week, no contact, no information. Emails and ph calls later, still no idea if anyone is showing up today.
     
  6. Obsidian

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    What speed did your purchase? The lowest cheapest one.
    We had ADSL2 before and were getting 1.2Mbs due to distance to exchange. We now have 12Mbs NBN FTTB ( fibre to building - apartment block) and tested and get a bit more 13.47Mbs!. So we are 11 times faster than the ADSL2 was. Good enough for us to work from home sometimes, conference call, stream TV shows. We could already do that on ADSL2 even.
    The spin is that most people will even need the full 100Mbs at this stage. In fact, its whether the source website can push data that fast.
     
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  7. Shawn

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    My area is having it's NBN rollout from 18th September. I am interested to know how it'll perform compared to our ADSL2+ which tends to struggle when we have 2 separate people watching Netflix.
     
  8. BKRinvesting

    BKRinvesting Well-Known Member

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    Yeh we just got fibre to the Node.
    Much better than the ADSL1 we had before. But certainly not mind blowing.
     
  9. Obsidian

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    Below are the Internet download speed recommendations per stream for playing movies and TV shows through Netflix. So even the slower NBN at 12Mbs should be enough to handle 2
    simultaneous Netflix connections even at HD quality (who needs to stream Ultra HD, hell, can you even see the difference to SD on a laptop).
    0.5 Megabits per second - Required broadband connection speed
    1.5 Megabits per second - Recommended broadband connection speed
    3.0 Megabits per second - Recommended for SD quality
    5.0 Megabits per second - Recommended for HD quality
    25 Megabits per second - Recommended for Ultra HD quality
     
  10. geoffw

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    I had ADSL2 before, I'm on NBN on a 25/5 plan (25MBps download, 5 upload).

    The ADSL2 was good (I think it was 10/1), except for 2 things:
    .One off very big downloads, like operating system downloads. At least ADSL2 was better than the old ADSL not so many years ago- then it might have taken 10 hours for the download (possibly 800MB?)
    .Photo uploads. These took a long time if I'd taken a lot of photos that day.
     
  11. Dan Donoghue

    Dan Donoghue Well-Known Member

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    I'm not in the plan yet :(.

    They did regional first, From what I have read this was done to get the regional votes on board to approve the proposal.

    In my opinion, this is why it's a damn money pit. If they did the city centres first then spread out (you know, kind of how the population lives) then it would have a much higher takeup rate and lower the costs of the continued rollout.

    In all honesty I think I will be living in Gold Coast before Northmead gets it........... incidentally Gold Coast doesn't have it yet either :(. Orange does though, as do most regional places. Wonder how the takeup has been??
     
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  12. Scott No Mates

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    Totally different answer to 25% of homes connected.
     
  13. Dan Donoghue

    Dan Donoghue Well-Known Member

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    Yup, I work in analytics and in my prior role making the figures tell the story we wanted was an essential part of my role, pretty charts and pictures can spin it any way you want :).
     
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    I personally think we should've invested the money into Wifi technology which undoubtedly will more than likely be the future in the next couple of decades....
     
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    Not really. 2.9 million premises able to order a service is vague. The actual number of connections is 1.1 million activations out of a goal of 8 million activations. That is probably closer to reflecting the true status of the rollout.

    I don't have it. My mate has it. I have asked if he notices any difference between ADSL2+ and NBN and he can't tell any difference at this stage from an end user point of view.

    Same. I am not on the rollout plan and never have been. My council applied and the council next door applied right back at the start. Council next door already had fast broadband, we didn't. Council next door got it, ours didn't. The irony being they had to run the cable down the end of my street to get to the council next door. Is it is a coincidence that our council is in a sale Liberal seat and the council next door is in a safe Labor seat?

    Yep. And has been from day 1 as far as I am concerned. The house I live in is 8km from the CBD of Perth but we are in a telecoms dead spot. It took years just to get ADSL2+. Now we are on the road to nowhere for NBN.
     
  16. Dan Donoghue

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    I completely agree, I even called it back when NBN was first announced, the amount we are spending on a technology to give us 100MBit..... Japan is already on GBit, why are we investing in old technology? Pave the way for the future I say.

    Wifi is an aussie invention, it would be kind of cool if we were the ones to bring global wifi broadband to the world :).
     
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    Same. In a past life I worked as a data analyst and had to write monthly performance reports. Pretty much, I sat down with the manager each month and asked what story they wanted the numbers to tell. After that, it is a simple process to present the numbers in a way that tells the story you want it to tell. Statistics can easily be accurate and misleading at the same time, depending on how you present them.
     
  18. thatbum

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    My personal experience has been great. Was previously 4.5km from the exchange and getting unreliable 1.5Mbs on the best ADSL2 possible - which cut out when it rained pretty much.

    Now got the real deal FTTP and went for the best 100/40 plan. Which literally has changed so much for me and my housemates - one of them having always wanted to do video steaming and youtube videos. Me I'm just happy to be able to watch a HD video without having to pre-load it.
     
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  19. Dan Donoghue

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    Interestingly enough though, that was the part of the job I loved the most, getting creative with presenting the data ;)
     
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  20. Indifference

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    13.47Mbs.... pfft... that's only marginally better than the "cheapest" NBN product as you correctly pointed out (which is up to 12Mbps).

    In the USA (over 5 yrs ago!) I was getting ~35Mbps.... fast forward to 2016 and ppl get excited about a fraction of that speed here.... sigh.

    10yrs ago (in this country) I was getting just shy of 8Mbps on ADSL2+..... yes a whole decade & technology cycle ago! Now with NBN (our future proof data network...pfft) we can get excited about getting not much better.....

    Sorry, but..... #nbnfail ..... did I mention they installed the NBN cable at ground level in my front yard & blocking a stormwater outlet to the street? This feels like the Home Insulation stuff up all over again.... I think the our government would struggle to project manage a child's birthday party. Actually, I am quite confident they would screw that up too.... rant over. #notimpressed
     
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