Making a firm offer - require help in negotiating

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  1. melbinv82

    melbinv82 Well-Known Member

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    I have found a property that I am keen on buying as an investment property. The property needs quite a bit of renovation, but the land size and location is v good.

    Currently rented by a long term(5 + years) tenant, they are happy to continue renting and I won't have to spend on renovating in the near term.

    The property is a deceased estate, in market for 4 weeks already.

    I believe if I offer 30,000 less than the
    The asking price, it would be accepted by the vendors family ,from what I felt after talking to the real estate agent

    As it is close to Xmas, not many serious bidders.

    My question is, what can I do to make a serious bid without bidding a higher amount? Like one and final offer only. Perhaps bigger deposit, 30 day settlement?
     
  2. Trainee

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    Unconditional offer?
     
  3. willair

    willair Well-Known Member Premium Member

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    Depending on if everyone that is in the estate and if they are all on the same page,then just make an offer that covers 24 hours then tell the agent ,it's up to you to make it work..imho..
     
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  4. KateAshmor

    KateAshmor Victorian Conveyancing Lawyer Business Member

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    Unconditional offer, open for 24 hours only, short settlement and perhaps agree to release the deposit early (you can secure your interest with a caveat). Good luck!
     
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  5. The Y-man

    The Y-man Moderator Staff Member

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    Is it in Vic?

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  6. Sackie

    Sackie Well-Known Member

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    I would just ask the agent what they need. Let him know your best price you can offer is fixed but if there's anything else important to them to let you know.

    Better than guessing.
     
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  7. Mel Morgan

    Mel Morgan Sydney Property Manager Business Member

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    Put it on a contract with a deposit cheque, that way vendors know it a done deal if they just sign the contract. Its a powerful incentive.
     
  8. melbinv82

    melbinv82 Well-Known Member

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    Yes, Melbourne.
     
  9. melbinv82

    melbinv82 Well-Known Member

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    Regarding the deposit, that is just so that if finance is approved,provided 'subject to finance' was the only condition, then if I don't buy property, I will lose deposit?

    You can still get the deposit back, if bank rejects to finance for some reason?

    Thanks
     
  10. The Y-man

    The Y-man Moderator Staff Member

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    "Subject to finance" means you get your deposit back - so it is a *very* weak offer.

    When we say unconditional, it is same as buying at auction - if the offer is accepted, you MUST settle - so if you do not, you will lose your deposit, and the vendor will come after you for costs to re-market the property, holding costs (interest costs etc), and all sorts of $$$.

    That is why it is risky for you (in case your bank rejects for some reason), but attractive to the vendor, even if the offer is lower than other peoples.

    The Y-man
     
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  11. Paul@PAS

    Paul@PAS Tax, Accounting + SMSF + All things Property Tax Business Plus Member

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    If you have loan pre-approval and just need final property approval eg a val etc then the agent should be told as this could help make a condition less than it appears. If the contract remains uncertain for three weeks while you chase finance approval its very different to a quick site val by the bank and a week for loan approval.
     
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  12. melbinv82

    melbinv82 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the advice. Let's see how it goes.
     
  13. willair

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    I would load up the contract with a few more clauses then just subject to finance,that way you can cover yourself and the deposit..

    There has been several post about contracts ,some unable to settle ,some forced to settle and the clauses people use within this site..

    Just do a search within this site and write down the explicit ''Do's and Don''t's from the experience of others just to remind yourself that ever contract is different..imho..
     
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