Investors prime Melbourne - Konrad bobilak

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  1. Anki

    Anki Active Member

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    Hi All,

    Has anyone used the services of Investors prime - Konrad Bobilak. He has written a book on property finance and also work as a real estate agent with focus on investors.

    His company mostly sells new townhouses in Melbourne blue chip suburbs.

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  2. Jess Peletier

    Jess Peletier Mortgage Broker - Australia Wide Business Member

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    He used to be associated with Jamie McIntyre who is a known spruiker. Be careful.
     
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  3. Spiderman

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    This morning I saw a group of about 20 at the end of Wimborne Av, Chelsea. A salesman giving a talk to a well-dressed Asian (possibly overseas) audience on a deck at the end of the street overlooking the beach.

    Wandered past the group to get to the drinking fountain and lingered a while, with eyes on the view and ears on what was said. I quickly noted Investors Prime on one of the folders along with 1 Wimborne Av. As fascinated as I am by sales talk and spruikers, a barefoot T-shirted Aussie wandering off the sand would have stood out. So, with a touch of reluctance I left them be, though I did note the company name and an intention to research later.

    I looked at their website. Presumably priced out of the 'blue chip' suburbs, they're spreading towards Frankston with development in the likes of Edithvale and Chelsea.

    I went for the brochure first. 1 Wimborne Av. http://investorsprime.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Chelsea_Brochure_Print_FINAL.pdf

    It's shoved behind newish high density flats on busy Nepean Hwy. It's quite close to the train line and there's an ugly substation across the highway that's often graffitied. Apart from that it's a handy location near beach, shops and train.

    The brochure on the property had two errors on the first page with significant text. The first was not in their favour - they got the distance to the local shops dramatically wrong. They were also incorrect with the name of the local golf course.

    The next page had four errors. Mostly basic English and punctuation but also misspelling the name of a nearby happening cafe strip and well-known suburb.

    Later they had pictures, admittedly 'Artists Impressions' of the inside of the townhouses including the views towards the beach. Judge for yourself. Compare the view out of the windows with the actual view from Google https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-38...h8OatH9jMvwNkxCk-Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1

    The reality is there's a lot more houses and a lot fewer trees than portrayed in the brochure. This artist was obviously told to be highly impressionistic!

    A further look at their website included a mention of a fast-track weekend. Maybe this was what I stumbled across. However the link was broken (account suspended). A whois search indicates that Konrad Bobilak owns it.

    None of the points above are major. But there's enough alarm bells including foreign (less informed?) investors, sloppiness with documentation and creative licence with pictures to make them appear an outfit that is best avoided.

    The association with Jamie McIntyre (and Henry Kaye) is confirmed in this photo Watchdog moves on land banking Also Delving into the dark side of shadow brokers
     
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  4. Greyghost

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    Sells to investors - but mainly new townhouses..
    Enough said...
     
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    Got to have super sonic hearing to hear waves crash 250m away.

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  6. Spiderman

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    Their distance calculations were sometimes out. I'd put the beach at nearer to 150m distance. I reckon you'd be able to hear the waves from that distance if it's 2am (and there's no cars on the highway or trains rumbling by). The shopping strip figure at 1.5km was the biggest inaccuracy - it's more like 300m.

    I suspect these are the only instances where the facts are better than the claims.
     
  7. ScreenName4Mark

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    Hey there everyone,
    Just signed up to post this post.
    I recently attended the Real Estate Fast Track weekend which was hosted by Investors Prime and was amazed at their generosity (please read till the end).
    TLDR: I am reasonably sure that this is a scam, and even if it wasn't I don't think it is a wise decision to partner with associates of Henry Kaye and Jamie Mcintyre.

    The course was free for me to attend and they taught the ins and outs of property finance. As someone who is far more educated in stock investing than Property investing I just absorbed everything and thought it was amazing and educational. And the next day they even brought us out to properties on offer as well as taking us through a few of the houses (they even bought us Lunch which tasted amazing!) At this point there had been no sales pitch, thus buying my trust.

    It was only until the very very end we went through the top performing suburbs and his predictions for 2018. He offered us to be one of his 100 mentorees, saying that 3 had dropped out recently due to divorce. It was a 5-year program costing $4997 (eerily exact amount mentioned here Delving into the dark side of shadow brokers) where he would mentor and coach you all the way through and then interview 30 of those 100 as testimonials for his new book. I was super excited and tried to quickly sign up. Thankfully I had an argument with my parents in which they brought me back down to earth, voicing their immense scepticism at such a program. To prove them wrong I did some research and soon found that I was very wrong.
    In short, in addition to the articles already mentioned by SpiderMan it was this article that convinced me to stay away:
    ASIC | Global 1 Events and Henry Kaye
    SpiderMan's findings:
    "The association with Jamie McIntyre (and Henry Kaye) is confirmed in this photo Watchdog moves on land banking Also Delving into the dark side of shadow brokers"

    All of those people mentioned here had given talks on the weekend and were all super compelling and seemingly insightful. Same exact picture as well, but under the "evolution education" name rather than the "Investors Prime" name which I find extremely shady. I would not recommend dealing with such people. Beware, they gain your trust by telling you true facts and amazing you with their knowledge. I even talked to experienced property investors who were there that weekend who confirmed that what these guys taught worked.
    I hope this has prevented at least someone from heartbreak.

    Also glad to be part of the community! lol
     
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