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  1. leon brown

    leon brown Active Member

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    Hi Everyone

    Iam in the beginning stages of my online start up and I am at the stage of designing a logo and website.

    I have a theme that i really like that I would like customized and so on , I have spent a lot of time on freelancer and UPWORK getting to know the system and the process , but I am overwhelmed by the amount of freelancers wanting to do business , So far I have only been chatting to recommended freelancers with a high rating .

    My next steps are :
    *Get web biz underway - freelancer
    *Get logo designed - freelancer
    *Get images edited and uploaded

    If anyone has any tips or past experiences that they could share that would be awesome .

    I plan to use freelancer or UPWORK for these services but I am at a loss as to where to proceed
    or more or less I am scared to commit to a freelancer who does not execute what I want .
     
  2. Simon Hampel

    Simon Hampel Founder Staff Member

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    For logos and such, there are sites like DesignCrowd where you can get to choose from multiple designs for a pretty reasonable rate - http://www.designcrowd.com.au/
     
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  3. Terry_w

    Terry_w Solicitor, Finance Broker, CTA Business Member

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  4. Samten

    Samten Well-Known Member

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    I have used Elance which is now Upwork. It is a really safe environment. You post your job and what your budget is, you then get heaps of replies. Do your DD and check out their references.
    Prior to the job proceeding you agree to certain timelines or milestones. Once a milestone has been met to your satisfaction and only your satisfaction not the freelancer, you authorise payment of that part of contract, the funds are released then you move onto the next stage. The buyer is really well protected as you heve control over the funds.
    Be very clear in you instructions of what you want done do not just specify I want a website, be specific e.g. I want a website with a shopping cart, designed in Joomla, I want you to FTP site to my hosting provider etc etc every detail you can think of.

    You will get it for a bargain we used Australian based company to do our original site and it came in at over $9k. Did the exact same site again but an upgrade in software with elance for $500.
    Good luck.
     
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  5. leon brown

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    thanks for the link Terry just posted a contest so I will report back after it done.
     
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  6. Jamie Moore

    Jamie Moore MORTGAGE BROKER - AUSTRALIA WIDE Business Member

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    www.logonerds.com/ is quite good too.

    Cheers

    Jamie
     
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  7. leon brown

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    Thanks for all the suggestion guys very helpful.
    I am in the middle of getting the logo underway using 99Logos.

    Now the freelancers are pushing me to purchase a theme that they will customize and add functions etc and i like this look so far , Keep in mind i am selling a new innovative design for women's shoes so no more than 19 different styles so i dnt need a lot of pages , but really want the home page to emphasize on the design of the shoe .

    http://themeforest.net/item/lucid-press-agency-business-wp-theme/2413990

    any opinions on the theme ?
    any negative or postve feed back welcome .
     
  8. D.T.

    D.T. Adelaide Property Manager Business Member

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    I did my logo, biz card and letterhead etc through 99designs, they were pretty good. They've increased their prices since then though.

    Have you had experience with word press themes before?
     
  9. Simon Hampel

    Simon Hampel Founder Staff Member

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    According to the ThemeForest page for that theme - the Lucid Press theme has been retired and is no longer receiving updates.

    You'll probably want to choose one of their suggested replacement themes instead.
     
  10. leon brown

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    Yes you are exactly right Simon , but the freelancers are saying that one is fine as it was updated recently

    nevertheless that is a very similar concept to the site I want to use
     
  11. Simon Hampel

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    The problem with a theme that is not receiving updates is that you will eventually get to the point where you can no longer update your underlying WordPress installation without breaking your site, which will then require you to spend a lot of money on having someone fix your theme, or redesign your site using a new theme - or else greatly increase the risk to your site because it is left vulnerable to attack because it isn't being updated.

    The #1 vector for attack on WordPress sites is from XSS vulnerabilities due to poorly designed themes. This is especially true for widely used themes where a known vulnerability is easy to exploit across multiple sites because it's pretty easy to find other sites that have the same bug that can be used.

    If you have someone who can fix the theme for you - that's fine, but that assumes they actually know enough about how the theme works to be able to troubleshoot issues.
     
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  12. charttv

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    you might be putting the cart before the horse. Before you do the logo, website, etc do you have any evidence there's a market for whatever it is you're intending to sell?

    Lots of free and cheap ways to test a market before committing to logo/site/etc
     
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  13. geoffw

    geoffw Moderator Staff Member

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    Then if there is a market, what about marketing, SEO and the like? There can be a lot of work getting your message out there. A website which gets no traffic is not so useful.

    If you are just selling goods, ebay can be a good lead in, on top of giving you a good indicator of your market- you may have already done this.
     
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  14. Andrew H

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    elance for everything
     
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  16. Steven Ryan

    Steven Ryan Mortgage Broker Business Plus Member

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    Mal has a good question. But assuming you're determined the idea has wings, one tidbit from an ex-designer:

    If your logo doesn’t read very well at tiny sizes and in greyscale, it probably isn’t a great* logo.

    *functional, future-proof