Flaking ceiling paint and cornice

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  1. bob shovel

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    Sounds good, free tomorrow? Is wed still ****** night at Dominique's? :cool:
    I'd go half assed with it or re-sheet. Heat guns sounds like three quarter assed. To much ass for be :D
     
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  2. Tim & Chrissy

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    Villaboard? Primer undercoat just stops plasterboard, bricks etc from sucking up all the paint. Maybe take a photo and post it? I'm not sure I know what your dealing with

    EDIT: Are you using the heat gun on rendered brick walls? Or is it just the ceiling?
     
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    There's no easy way out, it's one of those crap jobs that you'll be swearing about the whole time you're doing it.
     
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  4. bob shovel

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    The paper on the gyprock might be coming off too. Is the gyprock fluffy and lose, not compressed like hard chalk? Could be water damage. Is there a ceiling fan in there or good ventilation?

    You can sheet over the old stuff you just need to know where the timbers are. Find them and mark them
    I found Busting off the cornice with a garden spade works well, sliding against the wall and up
     
  5. Simon N

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    I'd look at replacing the ceiling in this instance. If you can get on to a plasterer who does small jobs on the hour and give him a hand with the lifting ect. it shouldn't cost too much and the finish will be much more presentable.
     
  6. Jess Peletier

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    That's the thing , there are no timbers. It's on brick - we've got the quintessential WA double brick :) It is compressed like hard chalk, but easy to scrape away if that makes sense? It prob just needs sealing/priming - I'll do that and fingers crossed it sticks to the wall.
     
  7. Tim & Chrissy

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    Sounds like cement render. I don't have much experience with it but I have previously patched it using sand and cement. You need a good few layers of primer over any new render you do because it was always be darker or lighter than the original render
     
  8. bob shovel

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    I assumed ceiling.. My bad

    Not familiar with that type of plastering. But makes sense, your getting sandy stuff coming off as you scrape.
    Might be worth a call to a painter, could be like bricks fretting from water, gets lose from water. I'm not too sure to be honest
    Is it just down low or all over?
     
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    Had a ceiling like that once, the person who originally painted it hadn't used a sealant, as our fresh coat of paint dried it lifted the original paint. I noticed it when I came in to assist the wife and FIL paint after I'd finished working N/S and they were onto the last room...big job using a scraper to tidy it all up and start again

    Fun days (not).
     
  10. Simon N

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    Jess, If you're in Perth your ceiling is probably hard wall plaster which is a thin coat of smooth plaster which is applied over rendered walls. Using a heat gun to get the paint off of it probably won't do it much good..
     
  11. Tim & Chrissy

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    You might be better off using a chemical stripper to get the paint off so you can minimise the damage
     
  12. Jess Peletier

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    @Tim & Chrissy I can just peel it off with my hands, no stripper required.
     
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    I'm sure there's a 'stripper' joke on there somewhere, @bob shovel?
     
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    @Jess Peletier
    Solid Plastering
    Sounds like you may be scraping off the white set as the paint comes off.
    Unfortunately a lot of home owners paint their own new homes without sealing the walls correctly before the top coats. In some cases I have seen the top coat of paint applied directly to the walls with no sealer at all!
    I suggest talking to a paint store (Solver etc - not Bunnings) and getting advice on a sealer once you have finished taking all the old paint off.
     
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    I respect the "arts" to much to make jokes
     
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    Hi Stu, I think this is probably the case - no sealer at all. Yuck! :)
     
  17. Johnny Cashflow

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    Painting is coming along good. I filled it with smooth coat filler and painted with British PAint 4 in 1 primer. No need to replace any ceiling.
     

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  18. Tim & Chrissy

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    A coat of ceiling white and your golden :cool:
     
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    Yea still looks abit ***** in the picture but yeah coat of flat ceiling and she'll be right
     
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    Johnny Cashflow Well-Known Member

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    All up I did ;

    Bought house for 165k + 7k stamp duty
    -curtains $200
    -Paint (did myself ) $500 paint
    -New hot water system( as usual !) $800
    -Split ac ($1100)
    -couple new doors ( $100)
    -misc ($100)


    Total cost about 176k

    Should rent for $270-280
    8%+ return

    Frontage is over 20m so good for future development in time to come

    The power of paint!

    I was suprised how tidy the house looks now. As usual I had my doubts that I had about a mega ***** hole but as usual turned out OK :)
     
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