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  1. Poppii2

    Poppii2 Active Member

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    Hi all, I have drawn equity from my PPOR to purchase an IP. As far as I understand I can use the equity for deposit and stamp duty of the IP. What about other maintenance expenses, eg pest control, building insurance etc for the IP am I able to use that fund to improve my cashflow?
     
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    Paul@PAS Tax, Accounting + SMSF + All things Property Tax Business Plus Member

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    Yes. Improves cashflow but doesnt help equity. Just dont use borrowed $$$ to repay a loan.
    I assume you have a distinct loan split for the original borrowing purpose and the new IP funds arent blended.
     
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    Yup. Independent loan for IP. Just drawing equity for deposit and stamp duty.
     
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    So I have 2 offset a/c for my equity loan. 1 is to park my extra cash. The other one is for rent to go in and direct debits for interest repayments of both the equity loan and investment loan. I keep both offset totally separate. Is this ok ?
     
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    IDK...What loan does it offset ? If the offset is linked to the IP and not a non-deductible home loan it may be a poor setup. Drawing loan repayments from a offset which ever receives borrowed money and is linked to a IP loan may be a concern
     
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    Hi Terry,

    I read your Tax Tip 1, still bit confused, so here's my scenario.

    After refinance to draw equity I have 2 loans :
    Loan 1 Homeloan $100000 with offset a/c 1 with $100000
    Loan 2 Equity Loan $320000 with $320000 deposit into an empty offset a/c 2.
    I also have an offset a/c 3 linked to loan 2 to park my savings in there to be used as everyday transaction account so I can reduce the interest repayment.
    Now I also have an investment Loan for my IP of $360000 interest only.
    After I purchase my IP paying deposit and stamp duty, I will have $120000 left in my offset a/c 2

    After reading your tax tip, my understanding is in order for me to maximise tax benefit and minimise interest I pay, I should move the $120000 back into Loan 2 redraw. Use offset a/c 2 for deposit of rents and direct debit interest repayments for loan 2 and investment loan.
    Q1 Is it ok to pay the short fall for interest repayments out of my offset a/c3 ? will that be considered as contamination of money?
    Q2 For future expenses of my IP eg insurance, pest control, can I use the money out of the redraw?
    Paying council fees, water bills can I use money out of redraw ?
    Q3 If my property becomes vacant, can I use the money from the redraw to pay the interest repayments? - but that will be using borrowed money to pay for borrowed money which doesn't seem right to me.
    Q4 Can I set up another offset to put the $120000 instead of putting it into the redraw ?

    Is my thinking even on the right track? o_O
    I have asked my broker, he told me to ask my accountant, but I am on verge of changing accountant because I realised after purchasing my IP my previous accountant is pretty clueless and unhelpful. So I would appreciate some advise of what to do so I don't end up mixing my money. Thanks in advance.
     
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    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

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    1. if the offset has cash only, there would be no contamination issues
    2. see
    Tax Tip 4: Borrowing to Pay investment expenses Tax Tip 4: Borrowing to Pay investment expenses

    3. See
    Tax Tip 16: Capitalising Interest Tax Tip 16: Capitalising Interest

    4. You can, but you are moving it further away from being 'borrowed money'.

    Sounds like your broker is a good one - seek specific tax advice from a licensed tax advisor.
     
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    Thanks Terry,

    Makes more sense to me now. I need to move the balance of my loan into redraw after settlement, and pay expenses for IP out of redrew.
    Much appreciated.
     
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    Just one more question regarding this, so is it right for me to say as long as offset a/c 2 has no borrowed money, I can have my PAYG pay going into this , or should I keep my pay seperate from my investment activities and have it go into offset a/c 3 ?
     
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    No need to segregate cash or income
     
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    So essentially I don’t need offset a/c 3 to park my savings ? Can just use offset a/c 2 for rent deposits, loan repayments, PAYG income, savings as a daily transaction a/c ?