Cars & Motorbikes Electric cars

Discussion in 'Living Room' started by Chris Au, 10th Apr, 2019.

Join Australia's most dynamic and respected property investment community
Tags:
Page 4 of 4
  1. Chris Au

    Chris Au Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    4th Jul, 2015
    Posts:
    1,247
    Location:
    NSW
    Chris Au, 15th Apr, 2019
    #61
  2. wombat777

    wombat777 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    3,565
    Location:
    On a Capital and Income Growth Safari
    wombat777, 16th Apr, 2019
    #62
  3. wombat777

    wombat777 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    3,565
    Location:
    On a Capital and Income Growth Safari
    Not sure why the link title is wrong ...

    Should be:

    The World’s Biggest Electric Vehicle Company Looks Nothing Like Tesla

    Bloomberg - Are you a robot?
     
    wombat777, 17th Apr, 2019
    #63
    Lizzie likes this.
  4. Lizzie

    Lizzie Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    9th Jul, 2015
    Posts:
    9,627
    Location:
    Planet A
    Yep - it's the future of the world. Australia has two choices - get on board or get left behind
     
    Lizzie, 17th Apr, 2019
    #64
    Propagate likes this.
  5. albanga

    albanga Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    19th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    2,701
    Location:
    Melbourne
    A Tesla Model S is my “I made it” car.
    But TBH by the time I make it we will have likely cycled through the alphabet and won’t need a car as self driving hire vehicles will be the norm.
     
    albanga, 18th Apr, 2019
    #65
  6. wombat777

    wombat777 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    3,565
    Location:
    On a Capital and Income Growth Safari
    Various extracts below:
    BNEF Shocker — Electric Cars Price Competitive In 2020 As Battery Costs Plummet | CleanTechnica

    "BNEF has adjusted its forecast once again. 2022 is now the year it believes electric cars will become price competitive with cars powered by gasoline or diesel engines.

    Why the rapid shortening of the projected timeline? Plunging battery costs. For a midsize US car in 2015, the battery made up more than 57% of the total cost. This year, it’s 33%. By 2025, the battery will be only 20% of total vehicle cost, according to BNEF.

    It says price parity will come first for large vehicles in the EU and then spread throughout the transportation sector. A report in ThinkProgress adds that BNEF also forecasts the cost of electric motors and powertrain control systems will drop by a third in the next few years as more of those components are produced by manufacturers worldwide and economies of scale kick in.

    When price parity is achieved, shoppers will make their buying decisions based on brand preferences, styling, performance criteria, or the constant pursuit of the next new thing rather than just the sticker price of the vehicles they are considering, and incentives will no longer be needed to drive the EV revolution forward."    ​
     
    wombat777, 18th Apr, 2019
    #66
  7. wombat777

    wombat777 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    3,565
    Location:
    On a Capital and Income Growth Safari
    wombat777, 18th Apr, 2019
    #67
    Propagate likes this.
  8. wombat777

    wombat777 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    3,565
    Location:
    On a Capital and Income Growth Safari
    wombat777, 18th Apr, 2019
    #68
  9. Rolf Latham

    Rolf Latham Inciteful (sic) Staff Member Business Plus Member

    Joined:
    14th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    10,654
    Location:
    Gold Coast (Australia Wide)
    although the google translate version of this is a bit " doughy" and not fully cooked, the article and study would raise for some interesting CO2 realities for countries like Australia with a lowish renewables mix and a larger electric fleet.

    Ifo-Studie entlarvt Elektroautos als Klimasünder

    As an aside, has anyone got access to some stats on driving say a 2015 corolla for 5 years, vs replacing the thing with a new vehicle in terms of energy and emissions at manufacture/changeover ? Where is the CO2 payback " crossover" ?

    ta
    rolf
     
    Rolf Latham, 19th Apr, 2019
    #69
  10. wombat777

    wombat777 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    3,565
    Location:
    On a Capital and Income Growth Safari
    wombat777, 22nd Apr, 2019
    #70
  11. Chris Au

    Chris Au Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    4th Jul, 2015
    Posts:
    1,247
    Location:
    NSW
    Sorry, not holding hope. The infrastructure needed for Australian conditions and the conservative approach of (many) Australians to new technologies pushes this timeframe out. I would say closer to 2030 (2025 at the earliest).
     
    Chris Au, 22nd Apr, 2019
    #71
  12. The Y-man

    The Y-man Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    13,527
    Location:
    Melbourne
    The Y-man, 22nd Nov, 2020
    #72
Page 4 of 4