COVID-19 vaccines & treatments 2021

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  1. geoffw

    geoffw Moderator Staff Member

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    She got a job. There's no shortage of jobs in care. She just wasn't able to work with vulnerable people while not having some level of protection for the residents. I don't know if this is a new thing. But it's about protecting the residents, not preserving one person's employment at one place.

    Which could well be the choice which will be given to many people in the coming months and years, not just restricted to aged care.
     
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    I don't disagree that it is the right thing to do at all. I wonder what other jobs will have this same rule, Ambos, Police, GP's ect?
     
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    I will be happy with either and I'm not concerned about the efficacy. I would prefer Pfizer because it is an mRNA vaccine and is the latest tech. AZ is a viral vector vaccine, which is also good, but not the latest tech. As I said, I will be happy with either vaccine.
     
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    Each to their own. Pros and cons to both vaccines.
     
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    Just as well, we're producing it ourselves. Good foresight from the Govt.
     
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    They are producing it in the EU as well... but they can't deliver what they said, maybe same thing will happen in Australia. Anyway plenty of other locally produced vaccines coming online now.
     
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    I wonder if WHO will chirp in?

    Our local supplies of the AZ vaccine are currently under manufacture in Melb and the OS supply although useful won't apparently affect the rollout.
     
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    geoffw, 5th Mar, 2021
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    Agree
     
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    I agree ... just don't like to see bullying nationalism come into play.

    Apparently, in Florida, they've already instigated a "thems with the most money get to the front" queue, rather than most need
     
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    We've just had notification that we'll be getting 50 doses / week . End March

    Initially there will be small amounts to ensure that everyone has their Systems / training in place .

    To book , you will need to go to a centralised booking website and complete details , then you will be directed to a local practice . The booking site isn't up as of yet .

    I'd expect low numbers in late march / early april and then rapidly ramping up.

    Don't expect 100,000 's / week in first month.

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    Except for travel, life is pretty normal at the moment. Personally, I can’t see thousands of people rushing out to get the vaccine. Certainly not top of mind for me.
     
    Shazz@, 6th Mar, 2021
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    Only issue will be when they start letting in thousands of immunised but still contagious carriers into the country....

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    With new variants that the vaccine has limited effect against
     
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    Has to happen eventually... covid is never going away, there is always going to be some spread in communities.
     
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    Fake news. Data from UK and USA suggests it is just as effective. Only instaimmunoligists and journoimunologists said that
     
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    Coronaviruses have always existed. Just not the strain called COVID-19 which attacks the lungs and the SARS, MERS which preceeded it (all originated in China) . Its a cold like illness. Another of the bugs people incorrectly label "the flu". Both SARS and MERS exist and kill a few people a year and COVID is likely to do same. There have been no cases of SARS for over a decade. But MERS is an ongoing public health concern. Influenza kills more. Thanks spanish flu. There is no vaccine for that still.

    SARS summary:

    • Pathogen: SARS-CoV
    • Total number of cases: 8,439, 21% of which developed in healthcare workers
    • Number of cases in the United States: 73
    • Total number of deaths: 812
    • Case fatality rate: 9.6%
    • Mode of transmission: Droplets produced by coughing, sneezing, talking, or breathing
    • Mean incubation period: 5 days
    • Key symptoms: A cough (dry at first), a fever, and diarrhea in the first or second week of illness, or both
    • At risk groups: People with underlying medical conditions
    • Treatment: No specific treatment
    • Vaccine: No vaccine
    MERS summary:

    • Pathogen: MERS-CoV
    • Total number of cases: 2,519
    • Number of cases in the U.S.: 2
    • Total number of deaths: 866
    • Case fatality rate: 34.3%
    • Mode of transmission: Droplets from person to person, unclear from camels to humans
    • Key symptoms: A fever, a cough, shortness of breath
    • At risk groups: Men above the age of 60, particularly those with underlying medical conditions such as diabetes, high blood pressure, and kidney failure
    • Treatment: No specific treatment
    • Vaccine: No vaccine
    When comparing the three the importance of a vaccine to limit transmission and to limit the health effect so it is not serious, is evident to immunologists v SARS and MERS which were contained by travel restrictions / quarantine alone. The WHO havent changed that view for a long time. All the "experts" who disgreed with their science based on maths are gradually being proven wrong.
     
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