Covid 19 price correction: Place your bets!

Discussion in 'Property Market Economics' started by spludgey, 17th Mar, 2020.

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How much do you think the property market is going to drop?

Poll closed 31st Mar, 2020.
  1. Not at all, it will increase in value!

    8.7%
  2. 0-5%

    11.1%
  3. 5-10%

    13.1%
  4. 10-15%

    13.1%
  5. 15%-20%

    19.0%
  6. 20%-30%

    19.4%
  7. 30%-40%

    6.7%
  8. 40%-60%

    6.3%
  9. 60%-80%

    0.8%
  10. 80%-100%

    1.6%
  1. The Grinch

    The Grinch Well-Known Member

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    "I’m not a big risk-taker. I stay away from things I don’t know anything about" - Wayne Gretzky

    Please share with me your cristal ball.
     
  2. DueDiligence

    DueDiligence Well-Known Member

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    You've missed my point, I was referring to the lead indicators, not the lag data.
     
  3. matt_j

    matt_j Well-Known Member

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    I hope you're right. Just paid the 10% deposit on a place last week and wish we could get out now...Feeling too anxious about everything
     
  4. DueDiligence

    DueDiligence Well-Known Member

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    It’s not all bad, have you done sums? , buying can still stack up , even now.. depending.
     
  5. matt_j

    matt_j Well-Known Member

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    Hoping neither of us loses a job but if prices drop 20% it makes a fair difference when spending over $1m..
     
  6. DueDiligence

    DueDiligence Well-Known Member

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    Mortgage relief is available from the big 4. If the risk is untenable , crash it and negotiate some deposit back. I just canceled a contract today .


    10 % on 1 mill though, it’s not a small amount to negotiate I guess.
     
  7. The Grinch

    The Grinch Well-Known Member

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    Buying with a long term view in Sydney you are going to be fine. Sentiments on the job security that I'm afraid is the biggest concern for everyone right now.
     
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  8. The Grinch

    The Grinch Well-Known Member

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    I get what you mean, but honestly we are a month in, a lot can change in the next month and then again.

    No point spreading fear, better to stay prepared and not over panic.
     
  9. matt_j

    matt_j Well-Known Member

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    Fingers crossed!
     
  10. Archer

    Archer Well-Known Member

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    What about the hundreds of thousands of small and medium business owners around Australia that have just seen their livelihood disappear? They used to buy houses.
     
  11. K974

    K974 Well-Known Member

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    buying now doesn’t stack up on any measure
     
  12. 2FAST4U

    2FAST4U Well-Known Member

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    https://www.theage.com.au/business/...inancial-stocks-hammered-20200323-p54cui.html

    3.07pm
    Is property headed the same way as equities?
    By David Scutt
    Jerome Lander, portfolio manager of the Lucerne Alternative Investments Fund, believes the brutal fall in Australian equities over the past month will be replicated in the housing market in the not too distant future.

    “Australian property fundamentals are dreadful; the asset class is highly leveraged, rents haven’t increased meaningfully in years and we are now unfortunately going to see widespread unemployment, business failures and lasting economic damage in response to the catastrophic economic impact of the coronavirus crisis.”

    “The irrational exuberance in Australian property prices will now be exposed for all to see.”
     
  13. LeeM

    LeeM Well-Known Member

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    Maybe they’ll buy the houses online?
     
  14. matt_j

    matt_j Well-Known Member

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    I wish I had gone with my gut @K974
     
  15. samosan

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    Sydney clearance rate was 64% last weekend - down from 74-78% in late Feb/early March.

    Anecdotes from San Francisco of 1,000 furnished lets appearing on the market in the last 48 hours from the collapse of the AirBnB market.

    All show downward pressure on demand.
     
  16. K974

    K974 Well-Known Member

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    did you buy ??
     
  17. matt_j

    matt_j Well-Known Member

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    Yes unfortunately
     
  18. K974

    K974 Well-Known Member

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    you know my thoughts , but at the end of the day if you have a recession proof job ( im not sure what that is nowadays) and you can pay the mortgage and you and accept that may just have a period of negative equity but once you don’t ha to sell and happy to look at the long term it always goes up, every previous recession ive seen. so you’ll be ok.
     
  19. matt_j

    matt_j Well-Known Member

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    I would cop a 10k or so penalty to get out now, even 20k, but not the full 10%. Hopefully we will be ok
     
  20. Gabbaking

    Gabbaking Well-Known Member

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    Well, got a call from REA regarding this property. They are trying to bring the auction to tomorrow night. I wonder why? Too much interest or trying to get out of the property market as fast as possible.
    REA still suggesting the price guide to be 1.1 - 1.2m
    https://www.realestate.com.au/property/97-dartford-rd-thornleigh-nsw-2120

    I personally dont think the property is worth that much, happy to pay around 950k