COVID-19 in other countries

The death and infection numbers in most countries are way understated. Here they have revealed 3500 elderly care home residents that died had covid symptoms and were not counted since they don´t test dead people. The death rates are above normal years. Also it´s estimated here that only 1 in 16 infections has been officially recorded, so actually more than 2 million people have/had the infection in Spain, or 5% of the population. They are going to start random door to door testing soon (not mandatory) to get a clearer picture. The US probably has a similar under reporting of numbers. In Australia probably the under reporting is much less, x5 or something, who knows.

 

Think he's keeping it realistic

 

Deaths are devastating but are a lagging indicator, the the drop in percentage increases
are an important indicator that the curve is flattening, which is what authorities are aiming for.

That this decrease is happening is not spin but is a fact.

Excuse the layout

Confirmed COVID-19 cases in New York State over time
Date Rest of state New York City Statewide Percent change
March 7, 2020[209] 65 11 76 N/A
March 8, 2020[210] 93 12 105 38.16%
March 9, 2020[211] 123 19 142 35.24%
March 10, 2020[212] 137 36 173 21.83%
March 11, 2020[213] 164 52 216 24.86%
March 12, 2020[214] 230 95 325 50.46%
March 13, 2020[215] 267 154 421 29.54%
March 14, 2020[216] 344 269 613 45.61%
March 15, 2020[217] 400 329 729 18.92%
March 16, 2020 487 463 950 30.32%
March 17, 2020[218] 730 644 1,374 44.63%
March 18, 2020[219] 1,043 1,339 2,382 73.36%
March 19, 2020[220] 1,683 2,469 4,152 74.31%
March 20, 2020 2,694 4,408 7,102 71.05%
March 21, 2020[221] 4,145 6,211 10,356 45.82%
March 22, 2020 6,123 9,045 15,168 46.47%
March 23, 2020[222] 8,570 12,305 20,875 37.63%
March 24, 2020[223] 10,761 14,904 25,665 22.95%
March 25, 2020[224] 12,955 17,856 30,811 20.05%
March 26, 2020[225] 15,865 21,393 37,258 20.92%
March 27, 2020[226] 19,237 25,398 44,635 19.80%
March 28, 2020[227] 22,552 29,766 52,318 17.21%
March 29, 2020[228] 25,745 33,768 59,513 13.75%
March 30, 2020[229] 29,044 37,453 66,497 11.74%
March 31, 2020[230] 32,656 43,139 75,795 13.98%
April 1, 2020[231] 36,273 47,439 83,712 10.44%
April 2, 2020[232] 40,572 51,809 92,381 10.36%
April 3, 2020[233] 45,704 57,159 102,863 11.35%
April 4, 2020[233] 50,398 63,306 113,704 10.54%
April 5, 2020[233] 54,480 67,551 122,031 7.32%
April 6, 2020[233] 58,508 72,181 130,689 7.09%
April 7, 2020[233] 61,987 76,876 138,836 6.23%
April 8, 2020[233] 67,513 81,803 149,316 7.55%

2020 coronavirus pandemic in New York (state) - Wikipedia

 

Why I posted my link with supporting info....

never fear, I will continue to post updates.

 

Do you not think that the percentage drop in infection rate from the 70%'s to 7%'s is not better news.

 

It was sarcasm ... the amount of people that are being blase about following the rules and/or think they don't apply to them ... I am concerned the numbers will go up in 2 weeks (takes up to two weeks for symptoms to show)

 

Whilst absolute numbers matter, decreasing percentage numbers are viewed in how they slow the exponential growth which the biggest factor in the spread of the virus.

Stopping exponential growth is the basis of containing the virus and allowing hospitals breathing room in treating patients while a vaccine is found.

The governor cited Tuesday projections that showed a doubling of hospitalization numbers is expected to occur every 4.7 days, compared to a Sunday projection that had shown every two days.

If you consider the above is 'not enough to say things are improving' but only spin from a leader in a bad situation then that's your opinion, where as others would consider that this is heading in the right direction, perhaps you shouldn't be in such a rush to correct @MTR when her opinion doesn't align with yours.

 

It is great news that hospitalisations are dropping.

The start of the turnaround happens well before the 'growth factor' reaches 1(which is the same as the percentage growth rate), refer back to the table I posted earlier.

The 'growth factor' peaked on March 19, @ 1.743(74.3% percentage change), then there has been a sustained drop to 1.0755(7.3% percentage change) on April 8.

Even with the absolute numbers being much lower on March 19 if the 'growth factor' had continued at 1.743 it would have been a much greater disaster.

The start of the turnaround is sustained slowing of exponential growth which shows mathematically in the dropping of the 'growth factor'.

 

they only have a population of 5 million compared to Australia we have around 25 million

got to compare apples with apples

 

Started in the early 1930's. TB rife, work for the dole (susso), high proportion of returned ex-servicemen, hungry families. Give ex-servicemen with TB full medical treatment and 100% pension (so feed family), remove them from society to TB hospitals.

Probably one of the first public health policies of that nature.

 

Here we go Sweden

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www...rway-sweden-right-or-wrong-on-coronavirus/amp

and now, caveat Daily

Sweden records 17 deaths from coronavirus - its lowest daily rise in a fortnight | Daily Mail Online

 

It is the Easter long weekend. Reporting drops off, and more than likely catch up again when the weekend is over.

"However, trends in the data released by the country's Public Health Authority show that confirmed deaths and cases fall over the weekend before rising again, because of what is believed to be a delay in reporting."

 

Less than 1/5th land size ... so similar density

 

we are quantifying by number of people infected etc land is not really relevant

 

It is relevant because it relates to population density

 

Why i mentioned massive difference in population

 

New Zealand's land size is 268,021 km²

Australia's land size is 7,692,000 km²

That is approx. 29 times New Zealands land size

Australia's population is approx 3.1 per km2.

New Zealand's population density is approx 18 per km2

This is approx 6 times the density.

Sorry to let facts get in the way.