COVID-19 in other countries 2021

Yeah which country is it getting better? Global covid cases are on the rise now, deaths piling up in much of the developing world. The developed world have had some access to vaccines but are now flaring up with covid again as their summer is coming to an end. Most of which had lockdowns/restrictions during winter and are now at the low point of the wave but getting another wave again.

And you are right things here will get worse before they get better, with overconfident gladys, and Scomo who needed Rudd to negotiate with pfizer.

And i just saw the news about the Sydney/melbourne protests. Wow sydney hospitals are going to be flooded next month with the covid sick, glad i made the decision to movet out of the cesspool that is Sydney seven years ago, did a few years work in the Bankstown/Liverpool hospital service, cant imagine the havoc when angry relatives shout and demand oxygen next month..

Dont mind wearing mask and short snap lockdowns in Brissy, until we get the vacccine rate up and booster shots in.

 

most of Europe , you refer to cases , that’s my point , they are done with measuring cases , hospitalisations now all that counts to the people there, it’s part of life there now .

you are watching the media , I have been there 3 times during covid , I’m from there . Don’t rely on the excuse of a media in this country constantly driving fear , on the ground it’s not like how they report .

we are still tied to cases , and soon as we open vaccinated or not the cases will come

this isn’t about who has done a better job, I’m not disputing that , I’m just highlight the point After all they have been thru it’s now moving in a positive direction for them , it can only get worse here , no one will accept it getting worse which ties us to a very very long term closure

 

which european country are you from. ?

my relative in UK has been telling me her hospital in london is now being flooded with the covid. I expect the same in much of europe very soon once autumn/winter kicks in. And thats as on the ground as you can get. And how are they done with measuring cases? Still see case statistics coming out of european countries.

I know many european countries had lockdowns in winter that drove the infection rates right down and have been progressively vaccinating and reopening this summer. Some even had big flare ups just few months ago. I remember Germany had a huge lockdown in april till June which drove down the new cases to hundreds. France had a spike in april as well with a lockdown that followed.

Currently other than UK you can see Spain's covid new cases skyrocket in past weeks as well. Let's see if they lockdown or not next month.

media can say what they like i look at case statistics and hospital admission numbers which is what the governments do as well.

 

Most of northern hemisphere where stock markets are will be going into winter soon with covid cases/deaths increasing again, dont think those will be any safer. I am loading up on physical gold and silver, as well as some good dividend paying miners.

 

It's my understanding that those being hospitalised are for the most part the unvaccinated. That's the problem with letting it rip before the community is fully "there". It will be interesting to see which measure our governments use to move from vaccination phase to covid-normal phase.

 

That is the reported experience in America.

Out of curiosity I downloaded two maps. The first is the Electoral Map, the second is Covid Infections. I don't know the date of the infection may but does anybody notice something?

 

Just read this comment in a newspaper (news.com.AU) :

Of the people in hospital, about 97 per cent are unvaccinated. Among those who are dying, 99.5 per cent are unvaccinated.

 

That was referring to USA

 

Takes a while to wade through it plus there is lag (time to report, verifications, IDC coding, etc). Missing data on whether vaccinated or unvaccinated. I guess at some point in the future (assuming there is one) much analysis will be undertaken on that aspect.

https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Deaths-by-Sex-and-Age/9bhg-hcku

Edit: Bother the keyboard - I have to blame something other than myself - but for IDC read ICD.

 

These are two newspaper articles so read with that in mind.

Alabama doctor says dying Covid patients wish they’d gotten vaccinated: ‘I’m sorry, but it’s too late’

Three states are seeing about 40% of the country's new Covid-19 cases - CNN

 

Remiss of me but I should have added that similar reports of a larger proportion of the young are dying due to Covid are now coming out of Brazil and, as usual unfortunately, some poorer countries.

To my mind it would be unreasonable to assume the same will not occur here or elsewhere due to a low vaccination rate. To think otherwise simply doesn't make sense to me. Others will have a different opinion of course.

I suspect that is one of the reasons the ATAGI issued it's advice yesterday in regard to Sydney to take the risk, but an extremely low one, of an adverse event with either vaccine no matter your age. That advice can likely be read as applying nationwide if circumstances on the rate of infections changes.

 

Granted the vid is stage but interesting nevertheless.

The body of the article is informative although not happy reading.

Health care CEO says people are dying unnecessarily as he tries to get through to the unvaccinated - CNN

 

Most of Spain will not lockdown again, certainly not in summer. 5000 cases a day in Barcelona (reality much more) but everything is open except large events and nightclubs, and there is total freedom of movement. They have brought back the night curfew though but only 1-6am this time (was 10pm-6am before).

With high vaccinations rates (no antivax movement according to the PM), and added immunity via infection in young people, Covid could be really subdued here by September without too much extra closures. This 5th wave spike is already on the way down. It kind of coincided with ending the 7 month night curfew and allowing tourists freely back into the country. The Dutch and Germans renting my holiday property ignored their governments advice and have come, as have a lot of EU tourists with their Covid certificates. Not so many British now though with new restrictions on them

 

Soon COVID-19 will be known as the 'pandemic of the unvaccinated'.

 

I certainly have heard it referred to as the "City" disease, whereby high density populations are at its mercy. Even here in Australia, regional dwellers have only been infected from movement out of the cities by infected city folk.

 

Worldwide they say the vaccinated r not getting dangerously ill

yes delta is killing even very young children babies

many countries lost control Eg USA aBd live as if covid doesn’t exist without even masks often

I just tried to talk a USA relative out from holiday if in Florida where daily cases r so high abd hospitals overloaded
To holiday where there’s low population abd covid or go fir day trips wear masks get vaccinated .

we be had to delay weddings in the family many times now and my daughters fiancé’s family r dying in South Africa from delta abd not living to see them wed which is hitting them hard and making them push us all to b vaccinated .

we r very lucky here though time will tell how long it takes nsw to get numbers down
I think SA locked down at first case so their lockdown will end after just I think 1 or 2 weeks .
It’s the cafes abd people without income suffering most I think

there r people dying from all vaccines but few compared to millions protected
In some countries they r delaying second Pfizer gor 14-16 weeks to minimise stronger reaction with second dose
But also giving a third booster shot to vulnerable

 

Florida has very low vaccination rates.