CoronaVirus - Possible Vaccines and Treatments

This is pretty significant.
WHO suspends hydroxychloroquine trial for coronavirus patients due to safety concerns.
Testing of Donald Trump's preferred COVID-19 drug hydroxychloroquine suspended by WHO

 

l'm surprised there's nothing here about the vac Australia is trialing for wait for it , the US , of course.
Why does this smell of well , just yet more aussie US brownosing , maybe we were the only suckers dumb enough and why aren't they trialing it themselves , or the UK or Europe .
There was some dribble about it was because our medical teams were so good , yeah l'll bet , bit of flattery done the job l'm sure there are many better in many countries not to mention in the US .

 

You mean this?

Maybe read the through the thread and not make assumptions.

 

Ahh , this thread is how many pages , yeah right . No , just going on the report l saw that is pretty well how they told it and how it appeared to me too just going on what they went into.
However , l'd be more than pleased if it isn't as it seemed.
ps , Just read the link , still doesn't explain why us , like there wouldn't be 100 others just as good.

 

It's been shown that higher vit D in the system makes one more resistant ... so it may not be that the weather is warmer but simply that we get more sunlight

 

Though they do say “In reviewing the data from each of the hospitals in the registry, we noted that this hospital had a nearly 100% composition of Asian race and a relatively high use of chloroquine compared to non-use in Australia. This hospital should have more appropriately been assigned to the Asian continental designation.

He said the error did not change the overall study findings. It did mean that the Australian data in the paper would be revised to four hospitals and 63 deaths,.”

Agree with you that we still don’t know enough about the drug. COVID-Shield study is about prevention, not treatment. Would be interested to see what they do about the ASCOT study, which is treatment.

 

Another major effect of temperature is the survival of the virus on surfaces, in the right conditions it can last days, in warm weather hours, in direct sunlight minutes.

Spain's numbers inched down for weeks while everyone was in quarantine, then about 3 weeks ago the hot weather arrived (and people were allowed outside for the first time, good timing) , and two weeks after that new cases plummeted. See what happens now that everyone is allowed out again, few hundred kids in the park playing yesterday and plenty of groups of people outside now when allowed. From next week phase two and quarantine timing scrapped.

So climate, masks, distancing, virus burnout (a few million have already had it in Spain) probably all make a difference, but perhaps total quarantining of the population actually makes things worse by suppressing the immune system of many people.

 

Hard to compare the 2 studies. The first one is a proper trial. There’s no details on the second trial.

 

Personally l'd think summer would be a no brainer but l heard one of the specialists say too that sunshine kills virus's and a virus also doesn't live on surfaces very long in sunshine either.

 

Really? Tell us something which wasn't obvious.

Live: Even if we do find a vaccine, it could take years before we have enough vials to put it in

 

Don't forget drinking disinfectant kills it as well

 

I think its more that in a lockdown you are thrust right up against the virus all day/all night if someone in your household has it.

 

Very true - but also being a biological system in a complex world - one missing key factor, amongst thousand of other factors, can screw the whole system up

But yes - masks, sunshine, distancing - it all helps

 

Alright that's it! Give me the damn vaccine...NOW!

 

More questions raised on this study.
Covid-19 study on hydroxychloroquine use questioned by 120 researchers and medical professionals

Usually observational studies/real world studies (phase 4) are done after the phase 3 studies. In these unprecedented times during a pandemic, there was a need to do the reverse, but this raises the limitations of these types of studies.

 

Unfortunately, not many people understand this. It doesn’t help that most of the media reports out there interview scientists who talk about these swift timelines, and have no idea about the regulatory requirements or logistical issues. I don’t doubt they believe they can develop a vaccine quickly (there is millions of dollars being poured into this and there is a lot of public interest in this outcome). But there is a big difference on producing a vaccine, versus having a vaccine that is commercially available to the public.