Commercial/Industrial Loans for SMSF - Testing the water

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  1. super_act

    super_act Member

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    Hi all,

    This is me, married, 54yo, 7yo + 11yo, renting, no property, no shares anymore, single income family, no other income.:
    Salary pa $179k
    Super pa $17,900
    Salary Sacrifice $9,600
    Remuneration inc. super $196k
    Car Lease (before tax) $5,635
    Car Lease (after tax) $7,680
    Taxable Income $173,360
    Tax Payable $51,640
    Income after tax $121,720
    Take Home Pay $114,040
    Savings Balance $320k
    Superannuation Balance $340k
    Super Contributions Cap $27,500

    What's a good rate for a 70% loan for a $1m property in my SMSF assuming I'm a good risk?

    I see calc's being done at 3.5% but I'm offered 4.95% which looks a bit high...

    Cheers!
     
  2. Terry_w

    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

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    Get some financial advice about being 6 years potentially off being able to access super and liquidity issues. I am not sure what the rates would be but 5% is potentially the mark.
     
  3. David R Sutantyo

    David R Sutantyo Well-Known Member

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    what calculators are being done at 3.5%? 4.95% for commercial property is sharp!
     
  4. Redwood

    Redwood Well-Known Member

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    4.95 is not hight at all, used to be 7% You can get 4.7 odd at that lvr, remember to include purchase costs such as stamps and loan costs in your calcs

    Cheers Ivan
     
  5. OzziMelbourne

    OzziMelbourne Well-Known Member

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    my smsf has 5 plus interest rate. 2-3 percent are for individuals, while around 5 or so are for smsf.

    it’s unclear why you decided to borrow now at 57 when you are not far away from your pension age. You would not be able to repay $1m property with your balance and you are gonna lose big time on stamp duty.
     
  6. Scott No Mates

    Scott No Mates Well-Known Member

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    Once you go into pension mode, income is tax free - is waiting 3-13 years really that long?

    However the exit strategy needs to be considered when purchasing - once you are in pension mode for the fund, you need to withdraw an ever growing % of capital from the fund - how will this be achieved without selling the property down the line?
     
  7. Paul@PAS

    Paul@PAS Tax, Accounting + SMSF + All things Property Tax Business Plus Member

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    The fund would likely be incapable of paying a pension AND the loan. Buying property just because you could is not an investment strategy. Forced disposal may even be required if cashflows rely on contributions and they stop. Or the tenant vacates.
     
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  8. super_act

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    Thanks to all for your responses. My intent was to secure an industrial/commercial property to demonstrate capacity to service a PPOR mortgage after retirement. Maximising my smsf contributions and refinancing along the way should see it paid off in 10-12years. I'm hoping to buy a PPOR shortly and should be able to realise some gains in residential property outside my smsf too by the time I retire. All of the above is subject to having someone check my modelling and provide proper advice. My final plan might be very different :)
     
  9. super_act

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    BTW I'm happy to consider any and all suggestions for maximising my retirement income!