climate warrior brats

That's fantastic, well done to her and I wish only the best for her.

Kind of also cool that she isn't standing on the world stage telling all the adults off too .

OK I will do something I don't do often, I will admit I was not researched well enough in that when I posted before so thank you for posting the material that could educate me.

Whilst I concede that, it doesn't change my stance though as a 1 degree rise in temp since 1880 is hardly anything that really concerns me. There are MANY factors that could effect this I mean for example the sun is growing and will eventually swallow the earth whole so there's that but also it could be randomness, a change in the earth core, all in all we cannot categorically say that climate change is a) an extinction event, b) our fault or c) something to really be concerned about.

 

If you're not researched enough on that one area then I would say it's safe to assume you're not researched enough on the whole issue of climate change - you should probably look into it a bit further if you think "the sun getting bigger" or "randomness" are the contributing factors to global warming, maybe have a read of this as a start https://skepticalscience.com/argument.php

97% of the worlds climate scientists agree it's something to be concerned about, unless you know something they don't?

 

Not what I wanted. But it is what I expected. Try reading this.

Factcheck: Climate models have not 'exaggerated' global warming

 

That's like saying there shouldn't be mandatory taxes and people just pay whatever they want to the ATO. You'd be lucky to get 10% of the current revenue.

 

How about getting real and using a mature debating point. We need to stop using cars? This is why kids are angry, because adults don't get it.

 

But she got your attention didn't she!

And it seems there are plenty of people on this forum who agree with her, including me.

I'm of an age where I worry about my granddaughter's future more than material wealth.

 

Australia gets 14.3% of its energy from renewables, and:

1. 'can't afford' to do better, and
2. 'won't because our output is irrelevant by comparison to India and China'.

Both of these points are complete nonsense, as evidenced by these facts:

• DRC of the Congo, Tajikistan, and Zambia all source 95-100% of their energy from renewables, and their average GDP per capita is below $1,500, whilst ours is $56,000 - but we can only manage 14.3%
• India and China, despite being poorer, are both doing significantly better than Australia (and the US), %-wise. India is on 16.9% and China 24.5%.

 

Attention for the wrong reason. Negative value, hence title of thread

Plenty agree on this forum???

How many forum members? Lets put it in perspective

 

same!

16 year olds dont talk like that, mature or not

also, she was condescending, rude, hypocritical, belittling, and didnt make sense

it was as fake as my rolex watch from bali

 

It was very uncomfortable watching her, just so rude, nothing to be proud about...... if I were her parent

 

she may convince stupid people, impressionable people, young people, naive people, biased people,

but if you are smart, logical and unemotional, you will see right through it

although I do admire her passion (whether she is a puppet or not)

Im not even a climate expert and I could poke holes into almost every line of speech

 

I doubt there are too many climate experts here, me included

 

So those criticizing Greta, have you considered that you are not her target audience? Indeed, I don't even think the "world leaders" are her target audience. I think her audience is the disenfranchised and those who do actually think that more should be done. I think her speech was showing that there is no point being respectful to those that show no respect to this issue, and regardless of what scientific studies are suggesting, will continue on the path to maximum profits and minimize responsibility.

Regarding the comments about this being alarmist and extension level events... well, the earth will still be here after we have gone, and life does adapt and grow. But the question is, in what form? And are you happy for humans to be impacting other species to such a severe degree? (not necessarily specific to climate change, humans have been the cause of extinction for many, many species just by destroying their habitat) As a first world country, we are going to be OK regardless, but it is developing nations that will bear the brunt of climate change and environmental damage.

Finally, here is an interesting little diagram:
Earth Temperature Timeline


Cheers,
Inertia.

 

I dont know lots of studies on this, not sure what your point is??

I probably wont be giving up my car though

Husband an avid bike rider

Climate Change and Public Transport

 

In your opinion, which is the minority ... a noisy minority but minority all the same

As for her speech ... didn't feel it was any of the negatives claimed, but her frustration and despair was palpable

 

Her target audience should be the people that can make it happen ....Failed miserably

Sadly she’s just a pawn

 

Seems to me that the minority were more offended by how she spoke rather than what issues she was speaking about. Pawn or not, I'll take a pawn for climate change over a pawn for big oil/large corporations etc any day

 

This is one of the biggest crisis humanity has ever faced and we should be "respectful"? Kinda like saying the allies should have been respectful at Normandy.

Her future is looking like crap due to the actions of other people, people who refuse to look at facts, and you think she should be respectful?

 

My point is obvious. You just don't want to see. Next.

 

the thing with global warming and its effects and future predictions, there is so many unknowns, and ive seen studies that the sea levels have risen a tiny bit to a catastrophic rate as well

youve got one expert/try hard saying we're going to drown in sea water next week, to a little level increase isnt a bad thing,

you can argue both sides by selectively choosing evidence or arguments,

im certainly not going to take any notice of a 16yr old who's every second argument is How dare you? while splurting out a few Gigatonnes of this and that