Claiming Home Office Expenses for DIY PM

Discussion in 'Accounting & Tax' started by legallyblonde, 23rd Oct, 2016.

Join Australia's most dynamic and respected property investment community
  1. legallyblonde

    legallyblonde Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    22nd Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    858
    Location:
    TAS
    Hey all,

    I have mentioned before that I DIY my own taxes and property management. I am very comfortable with managing tenant affairs and I am confident in my basic knowledge of income and expenses for tax purposes. I have previously mentioned that I am expecting a large tax debt for 15/16 FY (three jobs and two positively geared houses). I keep receipts and records for everything! I am having a good look around the ATO website to see if there is anything I can claim with regards to home office expenses. I assumed that I could claim (since there are expenses I incurred in managing income) but having a look now it only seems to refer to home office expenses in the context of working from home. Below is where I was looking.. I couldn't see anything on the investment property section of the website. I am aware you can claim management fees ect.

    E.g. printer, paper, ink, labels, envelopes and stamps which were purchased to communicate with tenants. Previously I used supplies from my parents (embarrassing I know).

    Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated, as would any ATO links on topic. Worst case scenario I cannot claim it. Just hoping I might be able to bring my tax debt down a tiny bit!

    The 30th of October came around fast!


    I went to the ATO Website:
    • Home office expenses
     
    Elives likes this.
  2. Ed Barton

    Ed Barton Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    2,229
    Location:
    Brisbane
    Claim the pen you use for signing leases. You don't want to get in trouble for mixing deductible and non-deductible expenses. I use a blue pen for deductible work and a black one for doing the crossword to avoid problems.
     
    Joynz, Terry_w and legallyblonde like this.
  3. legallyblonde

    legallyblonde Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    22nd Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    858
    Location:
    TAS
    I am completing my tax now just with the contents that I am happy with... There is a heading under each IP for "Total stationery, phone and postage"
     
  4. Terry_w

    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    42,003
    Location:
    Australia wide
    Are you in the business of property?
    What is it you wanted to claim?
    What about the CGT effects?
     
    Marg4000 and Tyler Durden like this.
  5. legallyblonde

    legallyblonde Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    22nd Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    858
    Location:
    TAS
    Hey Terry,
    Thanks for the reply. Not operating as a business. Just the two IP's. E.g. printer, paper, ink, labels, envelopes and stamps which were purchased to communicate with tenants. I specially had to go buy it all as I never had the need for a printer ect previously as all uni work and the like is electronic these days.
     
  6. Terry_w

    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    42,003
    Location:
    Australia wide
    I don't think you could claim an office - as in part of your interest, but you should be able to claim those costs to the extent they relate to your property investing.
     
  7. legallyblonde

    legallyblonde Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    22nd Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    858
    Location:
    TAS
    Thank you. I am aware it isn't a home office. It was just the closest thing I could find regarding those types of expenses. The My.Tax property section does ask for "Total stationery, phone and postage"... So I am assuming this includes pro-rata printer cost (mostly IP related) ect.
     
  8. Paul@PAS

    Paul@PAS Tax, Accounting + SMSF + All things Property Tax Business Plus Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    23,547
    Location:
    Sydney
    These sorts of costs wont represent major tax claims.

    eg Home use for laptop, printer etc. 5 hrs a month x 45cents = $27
    25% x printer consumables and printer say $100pa = $25
     
  9. Rob G

    Rob G Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    16th Oct, 2015
    Posts:
    966
    Location:
    Melbourne
    See

    TR 93/30

    PS LA 2001/6