ceiling fans or air con

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  1. sanj

    sanj Well-Known Member Premium Member

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    Surely theres no hard and fast rule...

    How.does the house form thermally? good orientation, ventilation, insulation? then fans are fine. if its an uninsulated brick properyy with no eaves and cops a lot of afternoon sun then a fan will not be enough because heat will be radiated into the house long after sun goes down and moving air around wont do enough
     
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    Going to demolish ?

    Sounds like no palace, so no ducted. (and you may not get rent when they get the power bill)

    Prolly no split.

    Fan/s & maybe a portable AC...
     
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    Just last week I had an aircon installed in the lounge room and a ceiling fan in each of the 4 bedrooms in an IP in Brisbane. Cost me a bit under $3200 all up ($900 supplied and fitted for fans with lights).
     
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    My thought is that you really must know your IP intimately, the clientele, the structure, the neighbourhood, the specifics.... There is no One-size-fits-all.
    Agree that generally AC or fan would increase the rentability to any property. However exceptions noted thru my own IPs:
    1. Townhouse in Uni area: students pledged to us NOT to install AC because they dont want rent to go up and to pay electricity.
    2. 2-bed Unit inner city: total of 3 AC and 1 fan: been on market for over 3 weeks with rent dropped twice.
     
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    I'm in a similar situation with one of my timber flats- quote was ~ $2k for 5 fans which I thought was steep. As I'll be knocking these flats over in 12 months used that as payback period wrt increase in rent. Suspect tennants won't go ahead...
     
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    Without seeing the property its hard, however if there's a light switch and light in the room, I can do a ceiling fan for around $100-$150.

    Minimum height from the bottom of the ceiling fan to floor is 2.1m.
     
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    Is there a need for extra wiring if it's a fan/light combo? I would expect it but I'm no electrician.
    I have a place with a flat roof so no access to run extra wiring. It already has a fan but no light. The only light in the bedroom is a fluro pelmet light which is not enough.

    Main bed has an air con as well as the fan but there just isn't enough light in the room. Hence the reason I want to change it to a fan/light combo
     
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    And standard minimum ceiling height is 2.4m.. so just make sure the fan depth is less than 30cm, not all are.
     
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    Then tenants can supply their own pedestal fans.:p

    But really ceiling fans should suffice.
     
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    No, you only need an extra switch wire when you want to run a wall switch. You could most definitely turn it into fan/light combo if there's already a fan there. One thing to consider is clearance between ceiling and floor (2.1 minimum).

    There's always space to run cables, sometimes it is just more difficult, I'm guessing you'd just have to remove roof sheets or if you're luck you can use the existing cable as a draw wire.
     
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    Can always have both.
    Fans in bedrooms + living
    A/C in Living only (for those super hot days).

    Running fans are cheap, A/C not so much.
    So it depends on the demographic.
     
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    Cool, thanks.
    I suspect there was once a light in the middle of the room and they converted it to a fan leaving a weird positioned pelmet light over the window which leaves the room quite dark. Added difficulty is that the house is full brick so not a simple matter of running more cables up the stud wall.
     

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    Hi @mikey7 do you know the size of the air con you installed on your IP in Brisbane? and who you went with? Thanks
     
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    How big is the house? If it's on the smaller side then a decent sized A/C in the living area strategically located (assuming house allows) will do a fair job of most of the house , Ie if it can be mounted to direct down through the living and then a hallway. (assuming it's insulated, makes a big difference). Then fans in the bedroom.

    I figure this gives tenants the opportunity cool the house on the hotter days, closing up unnecessary rooms, while cooling down the rooms later in the day/evening, with fans to assist during the night. A cost effective balance.

    Though if it's temporary I wouldn't bother, remote ceiling fans that could be reused for timing being.
     
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    In our goodna / ipswich properties , we've been going fans in bedrooms and living rooms and AC in living room . Using a fan lights , not much extra and some tenants don't want cost of act in all the time as they can be expensive to run .

    Haven't gone to AC in bedrooms .

    Easier to rent with fans and AC .

    Cliff
     
  16. mikey7

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    Yep, just had a look at my invoice.
    It is a 5kW reverse cycle inverter split system.
    Cost $2,299 supplied and installed.
    Was through DC Electrical (dceq.com.au).
    They got it done the day after i accepted the quote.
     
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    Brand?

    I just did my own 6.5KW back to back, $1000 in the unit and $100 in cable/parts etc and $100 for a fridgey mate to come crack the pipes and put the vacuum pump on.
     
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    Cheers thanks @mikey7 Ill give them a call
     
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    I've found on small splits the install will roughly equal the cost of the unit. Back to back about $700 unit and $700 install (recently).
     
  20. mikey7

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