Buying for cash flow

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  1. Mangoman

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    Hi Im looking to buy an investment property for cash flow, I'm looking in places like Broken Hill and Mildura where houses are cheap and rents are high, is this a good idea, just want some cash flow for retirement. Having worked hard all my life the money is precious but its not doing much in the bank.
     
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    Why do you think regional property for yield is better than shares for yield?
     
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  3. Mangoman

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    This close to retirement (2-3yrs) shares are somewhat more risky, for me anyway, Im not looking to make a fortune, just add a bit to my retirement income.
     
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    As you live in Mildura, you should know the market well....

    If you want resi property and you want yield , I'd consider going a few hundred metres across the river to NSW/ Gol Gol.... it gets you into NSW so you can get a Dual Occ with a granny flat there- something you cant do on the Mildura/Victorian side of the river.

    but is resi property really what you need at this age / stage?
     
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    What's your budget?
    Do you need finance or just outright purchase with your hard earned cash?
    What kind of rental return are you expecting after all costs?
     
  6. Mangoman

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    I have about $150,000 available funds, if I buy Broken Hill I can get something with a return of about 7% in Mildura I would need to borrow but then I would get some capital growth unsure how to go
     
  7. Lindsay_W

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    Retirement in 2-3 years and you need a loan for Mildura, that is going be a challenge in itself. Is the 7% in Broken Hill after you factor in all property expenses and costs?
    Probably best you get some financial advice to see if property really is the best option for you. Just a thought
     
  8. Mangoman

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    Dont need a loan for Broken Hill property
     
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    management fees, insurance, rates, repairs.
     
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    may i know why do you think shares are riskier than a house in rural area?
     
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    ... and vacancies.

    I don’t understand why people focus on IP gross yield.

    One should always focus on net yield. That is, after taking into account vacancies, management fees, rates, repairs, ...

    Personally, I would NEVER buy in BH, too risky for me.

    If I had $150,000 in cash and a few years out from retirement, I would probably look at putting it into a LIC/EFT. Good net yield and no ongoing admin work involved on my part.

    Each to their own.
     
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    Sackie Well-known cafe bum of the East Premium Member

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    I highly doubt after all expenses you'll get 7% net yeilds.
     
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    Also consider liquidity. What will you do if you suddenly need emergency cash?

    7 gross probably means 4-5 net, maybe. And you are exposed to a regional economy.
     
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    Sackie Well-known cafe bum of the East Premium Member

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    In that situation I'd probably do exactly the same.
     
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    Yeah, if you need say $20,000 cash, it is a bit hard to just sell off the 3rd bedroom :D.

    Whereas, one can sell $20,000 of LIC/EFT shares.
     
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  17. Mangoman

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    Yes, we used a 1% formula that was suggested to us, rent should be 1% of purchase price, gross income multiplied by 11.5, subtract operating expenses to get net income, divide net income by purchase price to get cap rate which was 7%
     
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    Dont understand that 1% formula. You seem to be expecting 8.7% gross and then about 1.7% expenses to get 7% net?
     
  19. Mangoman

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    Well thats why I'm here, I have been given so much advice from people that dont seem to have done very well out of property so I'm looking to learn
     
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    Check the rent with actual properties for sale and rent. Then consider how much liquidity you need. What is your living situation etc?
     

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