2 properties on the same loan

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  1. relentless1

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    I took out a loan from equity in a property I have a mortgage with. My original plan was to use this loan for business purposes but now that has fallen through.

    I have the loan money just sitting there doing nothing, there is repayments to made however there is no interest charged until I use it, plus I changed it to P&I to buy some time until I decided what to do. It's not like I can give back the loan?

    I was thinking to buy a new property with this cash. Does this mean the new property is effectively bought outright and not secured against the original property mortgage?

    What are the pros/cons of doing this especially if I would like to loan more in the future should my income increase?

    I read ideally you should have separate loans for each property for flexibility but my options are limited at the moment.

    On top of this I'm more of a house guy and was looking around lower south east QLD where I am probably only going to be able to afford a unit after all the costs. If I could somehow loan a little more then I would go for house although the benefits of a unit are becoming attractive - less maintenance costs (I would hope) and higher cash flow.
     
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    Rolf Latham Inciteful (sic) Staff Member Business Plus Member

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    Sounds like you might have the capacity to buy that house, but your structure looks odd.

    Perhaps talk wit's an experienced investment focussed banker/ broker

    Ta

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  3. relentless1

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    That would be a good idea but last time all the brokers failed to get me the loan where as I was able to get it myself. Not saying people on here couldn't.

    Partially because my situation is quite unique I found most of them weren't very motivated. I live overseas but I'm not employed as an expat because I'm a dual citizen . On top that the currency I earn in is not friendly and gets reduced to 80% (or less depending on lender) of what I actually earn. ANZ had even come up with a policy against lending to dual citizens and the only reason I mentioned it was because they eventually asked for my expat work visa papers.

    I was lucky enough to find a motivated sales guy I guess that probably wanted to push his numbers up and got everything approved by Bankwest :) The same bank some of the brokers inquired at. Depends who you are talking to I guess.
     
  4. Jess Peletier

    Jess Peletier Mortgage Broker & Finance Strategy, Aus Wide! Business Member

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    Now that the loan is in place get one of the brokers here to structure it right for you - it won’t need a new application, just a form. No need to change lenders.

    If you just go and buy a house with the money you’ll muck up your deductions with a mixed loan.
     
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  5. Lindsay_W

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    Unit's can be good but I would be avoiding the big apartment buildings as the Body Corporate fees can really reduce your cash flow, I would be looking for smaller buildings (if you haven't already) such as 3 story walk ups (no lifts = lower maintenance costs = lower Body Corporate fees) same goes for pools. Just my 2 cents.
     
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    How would a broker charge for just a restructure as there is no commission, I guess it's just a service fee, what are the typical rates? Thanks
     
  7. Jess Peletier

    Jess Peletier Mortgage Broker & Finance Strategy, Aus Wide! Business Member

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    Depending on the bank they may pick up trail on the loan, otherwise they'll do it just because it's good customer service.
     
  8. Terry_w

    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

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    The loan appears to be secured by a mortgage over the current property. It is enough to pay for another property the other property could be purchased without the need to mortgage it. But a loan has still be used to acquire this property.


    Sounds like you do have separate loans.


    I would suggest you still borrow 80% against the new property because you will find it hard to get ‘cash out’ in the future.