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  1. Rolf Latham

    Rolf Latham Inciteful (sic) Staff Member Business Plus Member

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    2 to 4 loans a month.

    Examples over the last 5 months

    4 refis and a bridging loan..........26 working days to approval, simplish self employed for one applicant, and other a partner at a mid tier law firm. Granted, no other lender would do this loan due to a niche ANZ policy, and client didnt even need a bridge, but doing so meant the client could retain 1100 k of deductible lending, providing a retained deduction of approx $ 70 000 per annum. Had a similar nightmare with Worstpac recently so ANZ isnt alone with inexperienced assessors in the bridging space.

    ANZ did redeem themselves on this file in the end, but was a fully preventable mess. What made it worse was that I personally knew a broker that had gone through identical issues a few months earlier on their own loan, via a broker friend of theirs ( Most lenders wont let brokers lodge their own loans)

    ANZ dont data map from AOL to their lodgement system. AOL is the software that most brokers use to lodge an application to a lender. ANZ rekey the data manually. Suspicion, rather than confirmed. Quite a few applications come back with weird questions, around say Employer X, and other material changes in the app, that doesnt happen with other lenders. ANZ even send an alert that says "data entry completed"

    Paper based loan docs....................makes for preventable errors both on the borrower and lender side. I have even had solicitors as borrowers stuff the docs up. Had a scenario recently where the ANZ doc prep officer failed to send a Witness Certification Form to the Expat Client. Minor ommission but caused much grief with an almost late settlement. Yes ANZ paid the client's costs incurred with the delays, after a chase. And like most lenders did deny any ommission or wrong doing, usual corporate dodge.

    Small things, ANZ dont generally issue deferred notices or "More Information requests", ANZ issue "Declinal Letters", how one does the small stuff is often a reflection of how we do the big stuff.

    Day of Settlement for a 5 mill bridge purchase. We and client's soli get an email at 10 am. 1 500 000 shortfall, please transfer to account x before 2 pm. Cant speak with the ANZ settlements officer, they dont take inbound calls. Took much chasey to get them to call an hour later, meanwhile borrower is sweating bullets. An error on both the clients soli side and ANZ not recognising proceeds of other refis settling same day.

    2000s technology in tracking tools, remembering they were the last lender to still use Fax technology until a few years back.

    Good things about ANZ

    Some niche policies that other lenders do not have
    Ok Pricing to very good pricing for a big 4
    IO on Owner occ
    10 years IO in Investment from the Get Go
    Refinance Rebate
    Most of ANZs business comes in via Brokers
    Minimal Broker and Branch Channel Conflict, vs say NAB and CBA
    Best in Market Borrowing Capacity tool, which the assessors dont get to use......?
    Will lend on resi stuff that a lot of other lenders wont
    Great Commercial product and policy for sub 1.5 mill lending
    Decent Policy and credit requirements manuals that can generally be relied upon



    Now, all brokers could write similar things about pretty much all lenders, ANZ isnt unique here, just that in our case half of our ANZ loans have some issue, and its much less with other lenders.

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  2. Rolf Latham

    Rolf Latham Inciteful (sic) Staff Member Business Plus Member

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    FM are rarely a fit for someone looking to come out of Pepper

    For most scenarios FM sit in between APRA lenders and Pepper et al.

    ta

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  3. Redom

    Redom Mortgage Broker Business Plus Member

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    Super useful. Ta @Rolf Latham

    Some of the sydney top writers and large brokerages have been big anz writers of late. They are also pumping well above market numbers again on aggregate data too. Ours isn’t nearly as large, but increasing.

    I think the long approval times have been fixed by and large for most applications. Think it’s the refi cash back, FHB cash back, pricing + BC doing it.

    And yes the inconsistency is frustrating, always leaves a sour taste lenders underdeliver.

    Overall bigger picture, looking at 2024, we’ve found the balance of all lenders getting lodged deals approved, quickly and seamlessly = better than ever. Digidocs, better assessment, speedier SLAs, etc all helping. Flipside is borrowing restrictions are tighter than ever with assessment rates near 10!
     
  4. Sam123456

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    Interesting, I remember viewing the amount FM would lend me as borderline irresponsible :)
     
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  5. Skinman

    Skinman Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for replying Rolf….been a hectic week. The ones I want to refinance are shown below.

    7.08% LVR approx 65%
    6.83% LVR approx 50%
    6.83% LVR approx 50%

    I think the issue has been I also have a number of existing loans with Westpac and when these come into the mix it’s been boarderline.

    Assuming you need to same info for WP loans as well?
     
  6. The Fons

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    Hi all,

    Looking for some feedback on the best rates I could find.

    PPOR loan of $1,520,000. LVR 80%

    P&I 6.09% from CBA
    IO 6.46% from AMP
     
  7. Ian87

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    6.09% from CBA is pretty good for 80%. St George may go a bit cheaper and also offer $2k to refinance.
     
  8. Rolf Latham

    Rolf Latham Inciteful (sic) Staff Member Business Plus Member

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    what are you looking to do with the loan ? Pay it off over 20 to 30 years or ...........?

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  9. The Fons

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    Looking for it to cost me the least in the long term. So debt recycling is of interest. Probably wanting to get IO for a year whilst I work out the mechanics of making that happen. But at the same time, I dont want to pay too big a delta in terms of rates
     
  10. Rolf Latham

    Rolf Latham Inciteful (sic) Staff Member Business Plus Member

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    IO on part of the PPOR debt can help speed debt recycling in some scenarios, but if one has a Master Limit product, ANY principal can be recycled from OO PI to Investment IO.

    Hard to beat AMP at the moment with > 1 mill lending, and a properly set up Master Limit structure for ADR. the .05 % extra for the PPOR PI lend pales into zip IF one actually implements an ADR strategy AND has the fuel (ongoing family budget surplus) to invest.

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  11. The Fons

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    Is there a rough guide on level on investable surplus to make debt recycling worth while?