WA Perth Market 2024

Discussion in 'Where to Buy' started by Shogun, 1st Jan, 2024.

Join Australia's most dynamic and respected property investment community
Tags:
  1. tk421

    tk421 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    19th May, 2021
    Posts:
    459
    Location:
    Perth
    yeap, buy and hold all the way, burn and churn the tenants and cash out equity when the banks get loosey goose, thats what i say! oh and dont buy the fringe, and pay down bad debt.. and , and, add some dumb luck, shoulda brought more :confused::po_O year of unit they say!

    south perth/ kensington is edgy? where are you living? Jutland Pde? :D

    "once per year rent increases", so now when costs increase and market moves up renters will get hit with a big one off increase which is likely to last another whole year as well as on renew who will drop the rental price? and no one is suggesting the RBA raise rates once per year.. more knee jerk rules, yay
     
    Last edited: 19th Apr, 2024
    Seagreen, HopWecked, rsmallri and 6 others like this.
  2. Ausprop

    Ausprop Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    756
    Location:
    Perth
    Vic Pk - drove through today, still very rough
     
  3. CandyCandyCandy

    CandyCandyCandy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    2nd Apr, 2023
    Posts:
    72
    Location:
    Melbourne Australia
    Depends which part.
    I lived in Oats street for 2 years, walked to the train every day and night for work in town (sometimes using the excellent bus system too), never had a sideways glance. Ate and shopped locally, used the local gym, we walked everywhere. I’ve got nothing bad to say about it, or Perth.
     
    Seagreen, HopWecked, Morgan and 3 others like this.
  4. Ausprop

    Ausprop Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    756
    Location:
    Perth
    I was thinking it is a pretty cool unpretentious inner city location that has a bit going on and some character. some of those views from those blocks of flats!
     
  5. CandyCandyCandy

    CandyCandyCandy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    2nd Apr, 2023
    Posts:
    72
    Location:
    Melbourne Australia
    As far as its value as an IP, there is zero correlation to ‘bad’ areas and ‘good areas’ on capital appreciation % gain.
    In other words, gentrified areas cost more initially, and get capital gain. Non-gentrified areas cost less initially, and also get capital appreciation. The % increases, cash on cash, are identical historically. This fact is perhaps not widely appreciated?

    Sure, if you’re living there like I did, consider the area. But as a pure business play, Vic Park’s lower buy-in means it’s a very attractive proposition for most of we regular investors. The rest can go to Dalkeith (where I also enjoyed a year living) and spend 4+ million and get the same % gain, or very likely less.
     
    HopWecked, Morgan, Realist35 and 3 others like this.
  6. littlered

    littlered New Member

    Joined:
    15th Mar, 2024
    Posts:
    4
    Location:
    Western Australia
    This is a good take.

    I lived in the area as a uni student, in a share house. It was affordable whilst having great proximity to university, my work, entertainment, restaurants, et al. I really enjoyed my time there.

    Did I have my car broken into, house broken into and retail workplace held up by an armed robber? Absolutely.
    Would I live in that area now? Probably not.

    The combined affordability, location and amenities of Vic Park will continue to appeal to tenants. Its gentrification has been happening for a while now, including commercial. Plenty of restaurants have been closing up shop in other precincts to reopen along this strip.
     
    Seagreen, Morgan, Realist35 and 2 others like this.
  7. El Patron

    El Patron Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    10th Jun, 2021
    Posts:
    184
    Location:
    Australia
    Does anyone rent raise every 6 months?

    I do 12 month leases and rent raises every 12 months so nothing changes for me.
     
  8. rhinsor

    rhinsor Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    665
    Location:
    Perth
    I think lots have an option to change based on cpi after 6 months
     
  9. El Patron

    El Patron Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    10th Jun, 2021
    Posts:
    184
    Location:
    Australia
    Is that currently? Is 6 monthly raise limited to CPI, or people just choose to do it that way?

    That would suck, my rents are going up 10%.
     
  10. Redwing

    Redwing Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    7,498
    Location:
    WA
    A friend mentioned a very recent purchase in Karnup

    100 people at the home open, and around 47 offers

    Another person purchased their Yangebup property for around $115k in 1995, just sold it for mid $600k
     
    adam duckworth likes this.
  11. mrdobalina

    mrdobalina Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    22nd Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    1,976
    Location:
    there's more to life than working
    You can specify in the lease agreement a fixed % increase or CPI.
     
    Nobody likes this.
  12. mrdobalina

    mrdobalina Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    22nd Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    1,976
    Location:
    there's more to life than working
    1995 is a long time ago (29 years). Equates to 6% compound annual growth, which is about average.
     
  13. Redwing

    Redwing Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    7,498
    Location:
    WA
    It's been a bumpy ride :D

    Corelogic: The long game… 30 years of housing values

    upload_2024-4-20_14-32-18.png

     
    Todd, Nobody and mrdobalina like this.
  14. Realist35

    Realist35 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    1st Mar, 2016
    Posts:
    1,698
    Location:
    WA
    Hey mate, you seem to be across the data very much. I am of the same view that good and bad suburbs appreciate at very similar rates. There are some opposing views on this. For example, people that I follow and respect, like Michael yardney and Stuart wemyss believe wealthy suburbs have better CG rates. Which also makes sense, because with more intergenerational wealth ppl dont need to rely solely on income.

    What is your view on properties on main roads? Do you think they appreciate at the same rate as properties in quiet locations? I'm starting to think that they do based on my limited research.



    What i
     
  15. CandyCandyCandy

    CandyCandyCandy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    2nd Apr, 2023
    Posts:
    72
    Location:
    Melbourne Australia
    PM me and I’ll share the data research.

    I have no view on your second question.
     
    Realist35 likes this.
  16. ANHgal

    ANHgal Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    3rd Sep, 2022
    Posts:
    93
    Location:
    Melbourne
    hey how did you work out the average annual percentage growth on this?
    Just wanting to know how to do it for personal reasons
    thanks
     
  17. Propin

    Propin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    7th Mar, 2016
    Posts:
    3,690
    Location:
    Perth
    Nobody likes this.
  18. mrdobalina

    mrdobalina Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    22nd Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    1,976
    Location:
    there's more to life than working
    (650/110)
    Then inverse root
    29
    = 1.063

    Which equates to 6.3% annual growth over 29 years.
     
    Mus, Propin, Nobody and 2 others like this.
  19. MakybeDivo

    MakybeDivo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    21st Nov, 2023
    Posts:
    45
    Location:
    WA
    One thing to consider is what happens when the market is quiet or in a downturn and you want to sell. Blue chip/wealthy suburbs often hold their value better. Trying to sell a B-grade property on a main road would also be difficult.

    Quality of tenants is also a factor as some with investment properties in Armadale will know.
     
    Seagreen, Realist35 and Nobody like this.
  20. Ausprop

    Ausprop Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    756
    Location:
    Perth
    I'm struggling with this being presented as a fact - so I just quickly checked Girrawheen 10 yr growth rate = 1%, Cottesloe - 86%, am I missing something? The whole point of cheaper suburbs is that they are an income yield play, therefore higher rent v lower capital growth
     
    Matthew Hughes and Nobody like this.