Your perception of overweight people?

What a wonderful Boss, @alexm

 

Technically; it probably shouldn't be a factor.

However; these people are espousing motivation.

Therefore, if one of your issues is weight; wouldn't you use your powers of motivation to direct you to doing whatever is required to lose the weight?

(Put aside for a moment the counter-argument that some people have no control over their weight and shouldn't be judged).

I would listen to a guy like Richard Simmons on motivation before listening to a person who was trying to tell me about motivation, but was not in shape themselves.

richard simmons - Google Search

 

Sorry to here this, Skater.

Have you got an exercise routine to follow? It may be worth seeing a PT (if you haven't already done this) to get a program to help?

An interesting thing; my sister once was on the large side after being very slim most of her life. She then became an aerobics addict, and over the course of approx 12 months, her body shape and size changed dramatically (back to slimmer and smaller); but her weight didn't change a whole lot to everyone's surprise.

She had lost a lot of the fat, but had built up a bit of muscle (which is heavier than fat) in the process from the exercise. So; my point is don't focus so much on the weight, but on the sizes.

(Hope I'm not telling you how to suck eggs, here).

 

" IF" your easily bored and unimaginative then just wait till the next speaker
takes the soap-box..But none will show that you are free to do things without any visible objective outside the dictatorship of someone else,s narrative...

 

Every body is entitled to their own perception, aren't they?
Depending on where you are, where you've come from, what you've tried personally, what you've achieved, what you know, what experiences you've had, you're entitled to your own opinion.

 

You kind of are.....
When I was pregnant with my first born, I was diagnosed with gestational diabetes. I was a size 8-10, at the time. I followed, to the letter, the information that was given me at the time. Eat every two hours, high carb content. By the time my child was born, I was a size 16. Being very short, that is rather large. No worries, I thought, I'll just have to work hard to move this.

Over the years I'd drop a kg here & there, but it always came back, no matter what I did. When I got back into skating & wanted to compete, I was very embarrassed to put my bulky self into a skating costume, so I went at it like a woman possessed. Skating 5 days per week, going to the gym & eating next to nothing. I got my weight down to 64kg, but try as I might it would not go lower.....and yes, I tried EVERYTHING. That was the weight I was when I competed at world championships, and I was at least 10kg, possibly 15kgs overweight for my frame.

Then I had to stop everything because of osteoarthritis. That was around 10 years ago now. Of course, the weight slowly came back. After the hip replacement & being immobile for some time, it was really hard going to just walk without pain. Around this time last year, I was well enough to start again & stepped onto the scales (too afraid, before) and found I was at my heaviest yet @ 83kg

So, I decided that this was not going to continue & over the course of, maybe 8 months, I dropped 7kgs. I know that's only a small amount & it took a lot of effort to do this, I might add, but that was it. It would not budge further.

Anyway, in late October, I got very sick, and was hospitalised. I was diagnosed with type 2 Diabetes, and given a heap of medication to stabalise it, and some literature of what constitutes a healthy diet, but at the bottom of the page there was a little logo from Sanitarium. This is the information from Diabetes Australia What should I eat?

And when you click the link for ADULTS https://static.diabetesaustralia.co...alia/d9579971-013b-4f48-82bf-0ad3e47ff84a.pdf

So....I was already doing what was recommended & I GOT diabetes. They told me to lose weight. Well HELLO, what do you think I was trying to do.....So I went online & spent HOURS with DR GOOGLE, because I desperately WANTED to lose weight, but now I wanted to lose the diabetes even more.

What Diabetes Australia is recommending is:

Exactly the WRONG information (at least for MY body).

Anyway, I will cut to the chase & leave all the medical mumbo jumbo and science stuff alone. Basically (for me), whenever you eat something, your body releases insulin. When there is insulin in your bloodstream, the fat is kind of trapped in the fat cells, so it blocks weightloss. Being insulin resistant, there is a lot of insulin in my bloodstream. The body is only ever in two states. Fed & fasted. To be fasted, all insulin needs to have left the bloodstream, so that the body can use the stored fat & that takes around 12 hours from your last food intake. So, by extending the overnight fast & not eating breakfast, I give my body a few hours to use up some of the stored fat each day.

On top of that, I have switched to low carb (which is how I eat mostly anyway, except for fruit) with high fat content, not the low fat that they advise. Since I have been doing this I have dropped another 7kgs, and it's only taken me around 3.5 months. I am still eating 1000 calories or less on most days....in fact some days it's a struggle to even get to 1000, as I've now only got two meals to do it in, and the weight is once again dropping.

Don't get me wrong, I'm still overweight. I'm now 69kg, with a heap more to go. I don't know when my body will say 'enough' and I'll stabilise, but this is working for me at this point in time. It's working for me better than anything I've ever tried in the past. I've dropped one lot of medication & on track to lose the rest in the new year.

Now I have a few things that are not on my side as far as all this is concerned. Firstly I'm very short, so my body doesn't need as much food as other people, which when socialising seems very unfair, and genetically, I carry excess weight around the middle. Looking back, both my mother & father did also.

Finally not every body reacts to things in the same way, which is why when you do look for answers, there are so many conflicting theories floating about. Not all overweight people are the same. You can liken it to how people spend their money..........Some are looking for answers (like newbie investors), some have found answers & are applying them (more seasoned investors), some thought they found answers & it still didn't work (oops, overextended, GFC, lost job etc), and some just go with the flow & live each day as it comes. (tenants...they'll never buy a house because they spend it all as soon as it comes in).

 

... but I don't like what he has to say, not a fan, too much hype and little substance... don't shoot me

Matt Damon he can say anything he likes and I will listen

 

Understand my answers may be considered inappropriate for some, however I believe it's worth answering honestly.

If your overweight do you find you are discriminated against ?

I'm not overweight, never have been.

Would you employ a large person ?

No, never. I find that being overweight is a symptom of a person I don't want to employ.

Does being very overweight mean you lack discipline?

Yes. See above. Professionalism is 90% appearance, and I own a business that requires people to present well.

Do you need to be a certain weight to be successful ?

Not necessarily. I am sure there are overweight people who are successful. They won't live as long as people who are healthy though. I also believe they may be perceived poorly by more clients, hence why I don't employ them.

Is exercise important to be successful ?

Yes, but I believe it is more due to the non-physical benefits that exercise provides a person that can deliver upon their individual success.

 

hahah....where do people come up with this. Do you seriously believe that nonsense? Dismiss a whole range of people just because they may be a little overweight and some may not even be able to help it due to medical issues.

Some of the nonsense I hear on here is staggering.

 

And I think the fact that others (such as myself) are prepared to provide their differing opinion, just so you can call it 'non-sense' staggering.

Because my opinion isn't the same as yours you feel the need to lambast me. Nice going.

 

Hey you can call my opinion 'nonsense' too anytime mate. Nothing personal, just my response to a particular opinion you have.

 

What is considered overweight these days?
The bar keeps moving.
To me, these days the figure at 33 BMI would be considered as a typical body.

 

This is a very small minded view, IMHO.

 

Point taken.

The other option is to go against my initial impression, and hire significantly over weight people in an industry that relies on personal perception and appearance, be perceived poorly by our clients, fail to bring in the necessary revenue and jeopardise the entire business. No thanks.

At the end of the day I have a liability to ensure my employees remain that, employed. And I will do whatever it takes to ensure that happens. If I offend people along the way, so be it. Life is not a popularity contest.

 

Thanks for being honest Scott,its good to hear differing opinions.

 

Glad it worked out for you both. I suppose he/she could always leave or whatever if they didn't get something out of it.

 

Haha

What decade are we talking here? She still doing it? lol

 

Remember everyone that we were asked if we would hire an obese person. Some posters are using overweight and obese interchangeably. They are two different characteristics.

 

Thanks. This is what I was considering when answering the question on employing someone. Not just a few kg overweight.

 

But do you really think that slimmer people negotiate better? And more to the point, do you think that most people think that? Judging others harshly means living in fear of being judged harshly yourself. Personally, this fear of judgement by 'society' is a huge turn-off for me, always has been, and I tend to give my money to someone I can trust. That is, someone who is not all about first impressions - be they one of the 'beautiful people', or not. I was slim and fit most of my life so I'm not coming from a hurt ego.
I remember my first impression when I saw one of my Frankston PM's : long blonde hair, well groomed, expensive sunnies, not a speck or fleck on the outfit, heels. OMG she must have spent most of the day in the department store or at the hairdresser - but I was paying her to deal with my bogan tenants. No no no - big mismatch.