Join Australia's most dynamic and respected property investment community

Would you let your tenants build a chicken coop? (suburban area)

Discussion in 'Property Management' started by jaybean, 27th Jan, 2016.

Tags:
  1. jaybean

    jaybean Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    20th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    981
    Location:
    Melbourne
    As the title says, it's a suburban area. Not even close to being rural or semi-rural. Coles is 300mtrs up the road. It's your run of the mill suburb.

    One of my tenants installed one with a bunch of chickens without asking permission. I've been told that if not carefully looked after, they can attract rats and other vermin.

    What would you do?
     
  2. Westminster

    Westminster Tigress at Tiger Developments Business Member

    Joined:
    13th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    2,959
    Location:
    Perth
    My tenants asked and I said yes and charged a pet bond which they were ok with as chicken can get lice and the coop/area may need to be treated after they leave.
    I've also had a tenant with a pet snake with a pet bond.
    Not asking is a bit rude.
    Providing it complies with Council regulations which is usually sets a maximum on the number of chickens and absolutely no roosters then I'm ok with it.
    I would be peeved that they didn't ask permission though.
     
    bob shovel likes this.
  3. jaybean

    jaybean Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    20th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    981
    Location:
    Melbourne
    I'm particularly upset because apparently they dug up the vegetable garden to do this. We had spent money on anti-weed matting and other stuff.
     
  4. Chilliblue

    Chilliblue Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    1,579
    Location:
    Australia
    Tip @jaybean Don't get emotional about your IP's.
     
    fullylucky, Tim86, Mooze and 3 others like this.
  5. Xenia

    Xenia Adelaide Property Manager Business Member

    Joined:
    21st Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    2,347
    Location:
    4/136 The Parade Norwood, South Australia
    Ask them to make good at end of lease.
    Or have it quoted to be restored the way it was including removing coupe.

    If they are established with their chickens, they may stay longer and reduce vacancies for you.

    We've had chickens for years. They are great animals to have.
     
    Leo2413, Bran and MTR like this.
  6. Depreciator

    Depreciator Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    15th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    731
    Location:
    Sydney
    Yep, there is a good chance the tenants will stay. That's a good thing if building a chook house is their only transgression.
    I have had chooks for years and I'm only 200 metres to the nearest Woollies.
    The odd rat isn't a big deal - cities are full of them.
     
    Tim86, USC and Mac Fields like this.
  7. Peter_Tersteeg

    Peter_Tersteeg Finance broker and strategist Business Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    2,107
    Location:
    Melbourne, Nationwide
    If the property is suitable for the type of pet a tenant wants, I'll always let them have the pet. It makes for more loyal tenants.
     
    Tim86 and D.T. like this.
  8. Jamie Moore

    Jamie Moore MORTGAGE BROKER - AUSTRALIA WIDE Business Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    2,159
    Location:
    Canberra and Sydney
    Personally - I wouldn't have an issue with it. If there good tenants - then I'd want to keep them on as long as possible. Not allowing them the coop might encourage them to leave.

    Cheers

    Jamie
     
    Tim86 likes this.
  9. Jess Peletier

    Jess Peletier Mortgage Broker - Australia Wide Business Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    2,781
    Location:
    Perth WA
    I agree, I'd be fine with it as long as they remove and rectify when they leave.
     
  10. HUGH72

    HUGH72 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    2,124
    Location:
    FNQ
    Chicken s@#£, feathers, smell and noise... not on a standard size block in a suburban street. I don't think many/any councils allow roosters either and limit the number of chickens.
    Okay if its a acreage property.
     
  11. Biz

    Biz Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    1,475
    Location:
    Sydney
    I would let them build it then I would fence it off battle axe style and rent it out separate.
     
    wylie, Westminster and JessicaP like this.
  12. gman65

    gman65 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    23rd Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    268
    Location:
    Brisbane
    ..and charge them two dozen eggs a week interest!
     
  13. BigKahuna

    BigKahuna Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    24th Nov, 2015
    Posts:
    624
    Location:
    Sydney
    Get your managing agent to deal with it. He/she can tell them that it can stay, providing the vegetable garden and the weed mat is restored on their departure. Your managing agent can also tell them, nicely, that they need to ask permission before they make changes to the backyard or to the house.

    I love chickens. They also make great pets for children. That being said, there is a lot more work than you think. You need to clean out the chicken poo constantly and, if you feed them food scraps, you get rats. Rats are scary.
     
    Beanie Girl, Rugrat and Xenia like this.
  14. HUGH72

    HUGH72 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    2,124
    Location:
    FNQ
    They also attract Pythons, at least my next door neighbours do.:eek:
     
    BigKahuna likes this.
  15. willair

    willair Well-Known Member Premium Member

    Joined:
    19th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    1,717
    Location:
    Brisbane..
    Nothing at all,we have a few mobile chicken coops that have been left by former tenants ,you just move the pen around the yard,if fact those chicken coops have maybe added rental value
    when people asks can we have laying hens,and just say there are the mobile ones already there..
     
  16. WattleIdo

    WattleIdo renovating Premium Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    1,822
    Location:
    Central West NSW
    Won't hurt the vegie garden in the long run - lots of manure. Cats deal with mice and rats.
     
    Last edited: 29th Jan, 2016
    Lambo and Xenia like this.
  17. Xenia

    Xenia Adelaide Property Manager Business Member

    Joined:
    21st Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    2,347
    Location:
    4/136 The Parade Norwood, South Australia
    Lol I love rats.
    My kids keep them as pets

    Chickens are actually aggressive animals they will kill and eat mice and rats if they can catch them.

    Cats are better hunters though.
     
    WattleIdo, Beanie Girl and BigKahuna like this.
  18. dabbler

    dabbler Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    2,720
    Location:
    Sid en e - olympic city
    Must be a Melbourne thing, I was surprised at the amount of places that had chickens when I looked at places there, anyway, should not be a drama if no roosters, so let them have it, but let them know they must ask before making any changes or new pets etc in future.
     
  19. Darlinghurst Boy

    Darlinghurst Boy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    29th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    866
    Location:
    Darlinghurst Sydney
    I did think u had to get Council petmission
    ?
    Neighbors may complain to Council but i guess thats not your business.

    The only thing is it will stink on hot days...hate to be living next door.
     
    BigKahuna likes this.
  20. Bayview

    Bayview Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    22nd Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    2,716
    Location:
    Mornington Peninsula
    Wouldn't care. Thousands of folks have chooks right under everyone's nose all over Aus.

    As long as they paid their rent on time, and removed the coop when they leave.

    Add the coop removal into the lease - or it comes off the bond to get it removed.