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Would you leave your employer in the lurch after a windfall?

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  1. ellejay

    ellejay Well-Known Member

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    We've finally sold off a useless ip that was paid off and things are looking rosey for a September payment. I'm thinking September would be a nice time to head to Qld and then travel down the coast for a couple of leisurely months as the weather warms up. The plan is to move to NZ in the new year anyway for a few months or years to reno and travel. The trip in September would give us time to see more of Aus before we leave for a while. But I just started a new job a few months ago and the earliest I could leave without peeing off too many people would be end of term in December. It's only3 months, would just say adios and hit the road or just suck it up until Christmas?
     
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  2. DaveM

    DaveM Adelaide Buyers Agent & KFC Strategist Business Member

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    Do you need them for a reference for the job in NZ?
     
  3. ellejay

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    No but I'd probably get bored eventually, still in my 40s. So I'd need one at some point.
     
  4. Xenia

    Xenia Adelaide Property Manager Business Member

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    Talk to them directly and negotiate a win win that would benefit you and them. This would be the most ethical outcome
     
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  5. datto

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    I'd have to consider the following:

    Type of job.

    Got a decent boss?

    Your age.

    Your + family aspirations.

    How much moola you're gonna get.


    These days a million bucks is not like 20 years ago esp with low interest rates.

    I opted for 3 months off work. I can't chuck a job in cause I'm hardly employable lol.

    It's some thing you have to really think about.
     
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    At the risk of sounding a bit mercenary i have only ever worked for large national/multinational organisations and time and again I have seen them dish out redundancies on loyal employees of many years at the drop of a hat. My experience is that majority of the time loyalty in the workforce is a one sided affair. Unless I had a great deal of respect for my manager, or perhaps working in a smaller family environment I would put my own desires first and foremost.
     
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    i would do the right thing and have an upfront discussion with them, see what can be worked out. if you leaving early is going to have a fairly significant effect id consider staying on for a bit.

    ultimately there are employees and employers who act fairly and co-operatively and there are those who dont, no system is perfect but i feel we should always hold ourselves to as high or higher a standard as we hold others imo if you would have been upset if the employer got rid of you after a few months then it would be a bit harsh to do it to them in return without at very least trying to work out a solution with them.

    just imo
     
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    .yeah i think multinationals would be different, much more clinical on both sides.
     
  9. bob shovel

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    Life goes on. .. Unfortunately in most cases everyone is replaceable. Agree with the loyalty comments so it depends on your relationship and history with the current employer.

    They are looking after number just like you have to. Being only fresh in a position they may have other candidates ready to jump in. Definitely worth being honest and they may meet you half way or if they genuinely need help you could stay on
     
  10. Bayview

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    As an employer; it is always difficult if someone leaves abruptly (unless they are a dud). I've been lucky; very few have left suddenly.

    Whilst bosses never like to lose good staff, they realise that you have a life to live as well.

    As was mentioned before; the size of the business is a factor - small businesses often can't absorb a drop in staff suddenly with ease, while in a large Corp you are often just another head through the door, and the loyalty is slim from them.

    So; if the business is small-ish; the best plan is to give them as much notice as you can so they have time to fill the vacancy when it occurs.
     
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    'Don't burn your bridges' .
    Will you work in the same industry afterwards? I recall working in a job, going backpacking, and being told 'come back when you run out of money! :cool:
     
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  12. D.T.

    D.T. Adelaide Property Manager Business Member

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    Do the right thing by people, never know what the future holds
     
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  13. ellejay

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    Alright, you guys are my conscience :) I'm going to see if I can at least drop down to 3 days a week until then to keep me sane. Anyway, if the conditions in there were better perhaps they'd probably have more people applying for jobs and sticking around.
     
  14. geoffw

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    Three months notice sounds quite fair. Give them everything you have for three months and you could still get a good reference.
     
  15. Dan Donoghue

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    I have always said "Be as loyal to a company as they are to you" (That's my input, you can stop reading if you like, the rest is an example of my own experience).

    I worked for 2 multinational companies and got made redundant from both, the last one was really disappointing, I had been there 12 years and was given a redundancy of 3 months salary (bare legal minimum). Further to that, the HR guy looked me in the eye and instead of saying something like "unfortunately due to the current economic climate we are unable to offer you more than the legal minimum" he looked me in the eye and said "by law we have to give you 3 months pay so that works out to $X" It was awful and it left me feeling like I did not matter for my 12 year contribution. I wasn't some pen pusher either, I built the founding systems used as the company transitioned from physical to digital media, I wrote all the reporting systems which were then taken by our OS counterparts and used over there. I worked out of hours multiple times per week (with no overtime pay). The general attitude was "If you don't like it, go somewhere else, plenty of people want to work in this industry"

    In retrospect I should have left long before but I didn't.

    The company I work for now is 10 times the size of that one in both staff and revenue but it is an Australian company. They have the attitude of employ good people and pay them enough that they will stay. They have been so good to me through all these health issues (keep in mind I had not even been here a whole year when I was diagnosed) where as I know the last company would have simply stopped paying me and put me next in line to be out the door.

    If I were in your situation and the company you work for was like the one I currently work for, I would talk to my boss as soon as possible and come up with a solution that enabled me to leave on the date I wanted and also brought someone in for me to train so that the business was not be impacted upon my departure.

    If the company you worked for was like either of my first two companies, I would remain completely quiet and give minimum notice and refuse to train anyone else.
     
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    You mentioned term - so it's not just dep Ed or independent school board but also the kids?

    3 days would probably be a good compromise. The one thing I learnt living regionally is there are long memories and everyone has a cousin somewhere else regionally. Do what you can without annoying too many people but still get a good reference
     
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    September is ages away, plenty of notice.
    I don't think it's leaving someone in the lurch with 3 months notice. Unless you want to and only tell them just before you go.
     
  18. bob shovel

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    Are you still under probation? You are allowed to leave, just as they can let you go
     
  19. ellejay

    ellejay Well-Known Member

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    Fate stepped in and one of the projects I thought I needed to hang around for has been cancelled. Not wanting to look a gift horse in the mouth I found a way to speak to my boss and colleagues. Now leaving work in a couple of months..freedom again!
     
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